Virgin Media is to cut about 2,200 jobs by 2012. - Page 3

higgsfield · 11-11-2008, 21:51

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Originally Posted by Chuck

One thing to remember is that Virgin Media have huge debts they need to pay off, getting cash to borrow to pay back the debt will be really hard at the moment so I guess they have no choice.

I suppose it might mean the products stagnate for a while as they sweat what they have and try and save on development.

It's not going to help them pay back debts if they start losing customers....

Chuck · 11-11-2008, 22:14

That is true so it is a tight rope they will need to balance on for a while. Already people moan about service, depends where the people will be going from? Are they going to keep the shops? Do they do much business?

fugazi · 11-11-2008, 23:06

Ha, Haaaaa!
You can't help but laugh - They give us The Big5, Roadshows & Revolution TakeAways, and then BANG.....we need to cost cut again, after waisting so much money on it6 and other Crap, they can't afford to keep you!!

Well thats the same old tricks ntl used to pull. - same company different name!

injuneer · 12-11-2008, 12:08

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Originally Posted by ANTOINE

As a Virgin emloyee of over 13 years, I don't mean to be blase about it but I've been there, done that, bought the t-shirt, gone for the weekend in Paris.

Speak to most old-timers and a you'll just get apathy and a shrug of the shoulders - here we go again.

New re-org, new managers (meet the new boss, same as the old boss) centralise, regionalise, re-invent the wheel for the 7th time....... pah

You're not wrong there, I know many people in VM who feel the same. It just grinds you down in the end. Luckily I got out years ago during one of the many previous "culls".

Sirius · 12-11-2008, 13:22

I found this well below the belt

http://twitpic.com/lc7x

**Chris** · 12-11-2008, 13:49

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Originally Posted by Sirius

I found this well below the belt

http://twitpic.com/lc7x

Whose belt? It sounds to me like the cartoonist is giving VM a kicking for announcing massive redundancies right when people are starting their Christmas shopping - or for admitting that the redundancies will actually be happening, in the main, over the Christmas period next year.

handyman · 12-11-2008, 14:38

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Originally Posted by ANTOINE

I wasn't getting wound up until someone, who's really unqualified to speak about how people in VM may or may not feel.

Russ did work for ntl you know back in the day. Though I do think like me he left before some of the major 13 - 3 CS/TS restructuring and outsourcing took place.

Turkey Machine · 12-11-2008, 17:49

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Originally Posted by Sirius

I found this well below the belt

http://twitpic.com/lc7x

That's a goodun, but is probably intended as a big swipe at Virgin, rather than the way you took it.

Sirius · 12-11-2008, 18:00

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Originally Posted by Turkey Machine

That's a goodun, but is probably intended as a big swipe at Virgin, rather than the way you took it.

With hind sight your probably right

Gary L · 12-11-2008, 20:13

This is on the Virgin Media homepage!

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piggy · 12-11-2008, 20:28

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Originally Posted by Gary L

This is on the Virgin Media homepage!

and why not its a caring company

virgin_tech · 12-11-2008, 21:32

cutting jobs at the moment is the way things have to go, thats life...but to say its for improvments in the way vm work, well thats sad.

Digital Fanatic · 12-11-2008, 22:18

tough times for everyone over the next few years...

sollp · 12-11-2008, 22:53

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Originally Posted by ANTOINE

As a Virgin emloyee of over 13 years, I don't mean to be blase about it but I've been there, done that, bought the t-shirt, gone for the weekend in Paris.

Speak to most old-timers and a you'll just get apathy and a shrug of the shoulders - here we go again.

New re-org, new managers (meet the new boss, same as the old boss) centralise, regionalise, re-invent the wheel for the 7th time....... pah

Right or wrong, i totally agree with his statement, thats how alot of people feel.

Escapee · 15-11-2008, 09:58

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Originally Posted by sollp

Right or wrong, i totally agree with his statement, thats how alot of people feel.

I left the place way back in 2001, at the time there was a huge reundancy programme the management called 'Planning for Growth'

I was placed on 90 days notice and 6 months later I was still not officially told if I had a job or not. I asked for redundancy and was told my job was ring fenced and there was no redundancy available, so within a month or so of deciding to leave I found a new job.

There was a period of around 5 years where some employees at CableTel/ntl/VM or whatever had been on 30 or 90 days at least once a year. These people do get thick skins because it becomes part of daily life, what it does however is produce a workforce who don't give a toss about their employer and this unfortunately is passed on to the customer.

As previous posters have said, every re-org is just the same as one they have tried before. I sold my shares at a nice profit not long before I got out, at a time when they were at $97 and senior management were boasting about how they would top $300. I laughed at how many fools believed this and said I was mad selling so soon, but I always maintained that ntl was riding on a crest of BS.

I don't think there has been much change in ntl/vm since I left, morale is probably worse and employers are treated worse. The rot has spread through the company like cancer, but unfortunately they seem to cut out the good cells instead of the bad ones.