15-10-2008, 22:34
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Neighbours VM connection
Forget it lol, i will find out next week
Admin edit (Chris) : Oh, no you don't.
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I realise this is illegal and slightly immoral but i quickly connected to my neighbours unsecure wireless connection because i knew they had VM and i wanted to see if they had good speeds.
The speedtest from speedtest.net (unreliable at times) showed that they had 1500kbps download and 488kbps upload, the upload to me suggests that they are on the 10 meg package but was wondering if the 1.5 meg was a result of a congested UBR or because the unsecure router was at 2 bars signal and was set to 802.11b mode rather then G.
Congested UBR or was it the wireless signal causing bad results?
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15-10-2008, 22:43
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Re: Neighbours VM connection
Have you changed the admin password yet?
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15-10-2008, 22:46
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Re: Neighbours VM connection
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Originally Posted by Gary L
Have you changed the admin password yet? 
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Im not that mean
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15-10-2008, 22:49
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Re: Neighbours VM connection
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Originally Posted by General Angel
I realise this is illegal and slightly immoral but i quickly connected to my neighbours unsecure wireless connection because i knew they had VM and i wanted to see if they had good speeds.
The speedtest from speedtest.net (unreliable at times) showed that they had 1500kbps download and 488kbps upload, the upload to me suggests that they are on the 10 meg package but was wondering if the 1.5 meg was a result of a congested UBR or because the unsecure router was at 2 bars signal and was set to 802.11b mode rather then G.
what do you think congested UBR or was it the wireless signal causing bad results?
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Seeing as you have no idea what your neighbours were doing with their connection at the time you hacked it, your speedtest results really don't prove anything.
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15-10-2008, 22:53
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Re: Neighbours VM connection
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Originally Posted by Chris
Seeing as you have no idea what your neighbours were doing with their connection at the time you hacked it, your speedtest results really don't prove anything.
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Technically he didn't hack it. it was already open.
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15-10-2008, 22:54
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Re: Neighbours VM connection
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Technically he didn't hack it. it was already open.
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Theft of an unlocked vehicle is still theft.
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15-10-2008, 22:55
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Re: Neighbours VM connection
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Theft of an unlocked vehicle is still theft. 
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Maybe, but you didn't have to break the locks
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16-10-2008, 00:29
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Re: Neighbours VM connection
It's still an offence under the communications act 2003
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16-10-2008, 19:46
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Re: Neighbours VM connection
but we were talking about if it was hacked into or not
Did the neighbour remove the security, or didn't it have any in the first place?
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16-10-2008, 19:48
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Re: Neighbours VM connection
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Originally Posted by Gary L
but we were talking about if it was hacked into or not
Did the neighbour remove the security, or didn't it have any in the first place?
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It had no security, i told him yesterday (before i went on it) that it was unsecure and that he should hide the SSID, its not on my wireless list now so i think he sorted it
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16-10-2008, 19:53
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Re: Neighbours VM connection
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Originally Posted by General Angel
It had no security, i told him yesterday (before i went on it) that it was unsecure and that he should hide the SSID, its not on my wireless list now so i think he sorted it
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Some peoples set up can automatically connect to open WiFi that are in range anyway. I'm sure there's plenty of people that connect to open ones without realising it, or even knowing it's illegal.
Virgin should be educating their customers on securing WiFi more. might help with over subscribed UBRs a bit
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16-10-2008, 19:54
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Re: Neighbours VM connection
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Originally Posted by Gary L
Some peoples set up can automatically connect to open WiFi that are in range anyway. I'm sure there's plenty of people that connect to open ones without realising it, or even knowing it's illegal.
Virgin should be educating their customers on securing WiFi more. might help with over subscribed UBRs a bit 
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Does a car dealer tell you how to avoid an accident whilst driving once you have purchased a car ?
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16-10-2008, 19:54
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Re: Neighbours VM connection
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Originally Posted by Gary L
Some peoples set up can automatically connect to open WiFi that are in range anyway. I'm sure there's plenty of people that connect to open ones without realising it, or even knowing it's illegal.
Virgin should be educating their customers on securing WiFi more. might help with over subscribed UBRs a bit 
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There is an option i think that connects you to the next prefferable connection, i made sure this morning that it was unticked so it wont happen again
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16-10-2008, 19:59
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Re: Neighbours VM connection
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees
Does a car dealer tell you how to avoid an accident whilst driving once you have purchased a car ?
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He probably would have to if he owned all the roads you drove the car you purchased off him on.
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Originally Posted by General Angel
There is an option i think that connects you to the next prefferable connection, i made sure this morning that it was unticked so it wont happen again
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Good lad 
educate the clueless
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16-10-2008, 20:01
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Re: Neighbours VM connection
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Originally Posted by Gary L
He probably would have to if he owned all the roads you drove the car you purchased off him on.
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But he doesnt does he ? Just as VM only own a sliproad onto the motorway
I agree with you that there is a need for education with regards to things such as WiFi security BUT It's a personal responsibility not one for Virgin Media to be dealing with.
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