Should smoking in cars carrying children be banned?

[acemanuk]

smoking should be banned while driving full stop

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by acemanuk

smoking should be banned while driving full stop

Working on that principle, so should eating whilst driving

Originally Posted by Maggy J

I'm getting sick of this nanny state..They will be banning chocolate one of these days..then tea,then coffee after they have seen off booze...

In one thread your trying to say a teacher having consential sex with a student above the age of consent is wrong then in this one someone is trying to protect children from passive smoking and you are sick of the nanny state?

No offense meant coggy but you either want to protect children or not imo

They should also ban transfats aspartame and various other additives that will and have reduced the expected lifespan of our children .

Smoking kills fact. Health dangers of passive smoking also fact. Smoking around children who do not have a say is wrong.

If as some seem to be making a big point of it this is about child welfare then how about we hang fire on the smokers and go after the alcohol industry that are responsible for a damn sight more domestic trouble and health consequences ??. Thats how this debate goes and it's exactly how it is planned to go by those that would prefer us at each others throats rather then concentrating on what else is going on. Can we please stop pretending smoking is a new thing that only now is this great damaging beast when most of us grew up around smokers and managed to turn out quite well and healthy.

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by David F

In one thread your trying to say a teacher having consential sex with a student above the age of consent is wrong then in this one someone is trying to protect children from passive smoking and you are sick of the nanny state?

No offense meant coggy but you either want to protect children or not imo

That's a bit unfair zing, as they're two completely different subjects. On the one hand, you have something that, to whatever degree you believe, is at the very least a breach of trust, whereas on the other, we're talking about banning something that we actually can't prevent our kids coming into contact with in their day-to-day lives.

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Originally Posted by Osem

I don't feel sorry for the smokers - I feel sorry for the babies and children whose parents are sooooo selfish they'd subject their loved ones to either to be honest. However, whereas policing a smoking in front of children ban in a private household is impossible, doing so in public isn't (even if such bans e.g. using mobile phones whilst driving haven't solved the problem entirely).

I have to agre about selfish parents. If parents need a smoking ban to stop them smoking in front of their kids in enclosed spaces then they shouldnt have kids in the first place.

I know plenty of smokers who smoke in the garden, and definately not in the car when kids are travelling with them. Unfortunately I know quite a few who simply light up and puff away in front of their kids. Before the smoking ban was implemented I had to think twice about going for meals with some of my friends as they'd simply light up in front of the kids at the table.

[southwell]

Originally Posted by Nugget

Working on that principle, so should eating whilst driving

I didn't think you could anymore?

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by southwell

I didn't think you could anymore?

Yup, but it still doesn't stop people from doing it

Originally Posted by David F

Smoking kills fact.

Smoking is a deadly drug just like heroin. It kills innocent people and it should be banned. If that means we pay more tax, then we pay more tax. Aren't we already being taxed to keep the NHS running to treat the huge number of patients with illnesses related to smoking?

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

If as some seem to be making a big point of it this is about child welfare then how about we hang fire on the smokers and go after the alcohol industry that are responsible for a damn sight more domestic trouble and health consequences ??. Thats how this debate goes and it's exactly how it is planned to go by those that would prefer us at each others throats rather then concentrating on what else is going on. Can we please stop pretending smoking is a new thing that only now is this great damaging beast when most of us grew up around smokers and managed to turn out quite well and healthy.

feel free to create a topic on this subject and I will be more than happy to agree with you

If people want to smoke fair play to them I do not mind just please do not smoke around my daughter who I care for more than anything and think about those dear to you and understand that there are possible health risks involved with smoking around children and loved ones. Just because the individual wants to smoke does not mean those around him/her wants to breath that smoke also

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by southwell

I think smoking should be banned whilst driving altogether, imo it's just as dangerous if not more so than using a phone. If people need to smoke they should pull over at a services.

And how would you enforce such a ban?

Actually Enuff the money the NHS gets from smoking tax far outweighs what it spends on smoking related ilnesses. Guess which lifestyle choice causes the most damage and fails to pay for it's consequences ??.

[southwell]

Originally Posted by Stuart C

And how would you enforce such a ban?

Well how do they inforce the phone ban? It has to be an as seen thing, surely?

Originally Posted by Enuff

Smoking is a deadly drug just like heroin. It kills innocent people and it should be banned. If that means we pay more tax, then we pay more tax. Aren't we already being taxed to keep the NHS running to treat the huge number of patients with illnesses related to smoking?

Smoking kills smokers, but does passive smoking actually kill? I am not disputing that it could exacerbate the conditions of people with breathing related problems like asthma, but has passive smoking ever been noted on a death certificate, even as a contributory factor?