29-07-2008, 10:28
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Re: Brown on the ropes? [Update - Labour loses Glasgow East By Election]
I think the only thing timing will do for the labour party in a general election is affect the scale of the defeat not the fact they wil lose it. I dare say many labour mp's are weighing up that very problem as we speak.
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29-07-2008, 14:30
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Re: Brown on the ropes? [Update - Labour loses Glasgow East By Election]
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I think the only thing timing will do for the labour party in a general election is affect the scale of the defeat not the fact they wil lose it. I dare say many labour mp's are weighing up that very problem as we speak.
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That, as well as who will lead them. They will be worried about losing their seats more than losing power at the moment and might want a candidate who would reduce the losses.
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29-07-2008, 20:32
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Re: Brown on the ropes? [Update - Labour loses Glasgow East By Election]
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...re-879414.html
Apparently though Jack Straw isn't plotting against him and is "absolutely convinced" Gordon Brown should remain Prime Minister...
Well that endorsement almost guarantees Brown's fate is sealed....
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30-07-2008, 02:43
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Re: Brown on the ropes? [Update - Labour loses Glasgow East By Election]
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Good riddence to him.
And the labour party as a whole.
How on earth we get a prime minister that isn't even voted for by us "the public" yet he gets elected for so many years is beyond me.
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30-07-2008, 06:32
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Re: Brown on the ropes? [Update - Labour loses Glasgow East By Election]
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How on earth we get a prime minister that isn't even voted for by us "the public" yet he gets elected for so many years is beyond me.
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Just lucky I guess, like the Royals.
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30-07-2008, 06:43
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Re: Brown on the ropes? [Update - Labour loses Glasgow East By Election]
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Just lucky I guess, like the Royals.
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Yes but at this moment in time they are not destroying this country and it's reputation unlike Brown the pretender.
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30-07-2008, 09:40
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Re: Brown on the ropes? [Update - Labour loses Glasgow East By Election]
And the Queen has a much stronger sense of duty towards the nation and her subjects than the last two PM's have had.
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30-07-2008, 13:26
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Re: Brown on the ropes? [Update - Labour loses Glasgow East By Election]
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And the Queen has a much stronger sense of duty towards the nation and her subjects than the last two PM's have had.
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can't we call on the queen to call a general election, then if she care's and has the sense of duty towards her country like you say then surely she should react accordingly
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30-07-2008, 14:14
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Re: Brown on the ropes? [Update - Labour loses Glasgow East By Election]
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can't we call on the queen to call a general election, then if she care's and has the sense of duty towards her country like you say then surely she should react accordingly 
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Well I suppose we can always dream.......
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30-07-2008, 14:22
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Re: Brown on the ropes? [Update - Labour loses Glasgow East By Election]
Under our constitution i don't think the queen can force an election and frankly thats not her style.
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30-07-2008, 14:28
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Re: Brown on the ropes? [Update - Labour loses Glasgow East By Election]
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Under our constitution i don't think the queen can force an election and frankly thats not her style.
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Ahh well we'll have to leave it to all those worried New Labour plotters out there...
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30-07-2008, 14:29
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Re: Brown on the ropes? [Update - Labour loses Glasgow East By Election]
The Government is elected by the General Public, not the Prime Minister.
The Queen is not elected and is very well rewarded for her "sense of duty towards her country".
The Queen is duty bound to act on the advise of her ministers so can't really sack GB.
Acting on the Queen's behalf the Gov General of Australia did sack the (acting?) Prime Minister of Austrlia in the 70s but there was a whole different set of circumstances involved.
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30-07-2008, 15:02
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Re: Brown on the ropes? [Update - Labour loses Glasgow East By Election]
Sadly as someone said if they get rid of brownshirt they will have to hold an election as the public outcry will be to large to ignore and that may be the only thing that saves brownshirt. Comforting isn't it that we will have a leader of the country with no clue no solutions and no real power amongst his own mp's for possibly another two years were i a foreign country right now that wanted a deal out of britain i would strike hard and fast and get what i wanted.
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30-07-2008, 15:51
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Re: Brown on the ropes? [Update - Labour loses Glasgow East By Election]
Brown is at it again.
Link
My supermarket will be busy, putting all the new prices on the products.
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30-07-2008, 16:28
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Re: Brown on the ropes? [Update - Labour loses Glasgow East By Election]
Brown wont walk,
There's two years to the next GE. He'll stay and hope things are better by then.
This is the guy who has waited 10years to be PM, shunned an election when he knew there was a chance he might lose (I think he would have won - then)
It's Labour tax and spend. We didn't notice because the economy was good for 10 years (bequeathed to Mr Brown from Mssers Major & Clark).
However. when the S**t met the fan he has no money saved to help out. We have war on two fronts, we've (as usual) ploughed billions into the NHS unchecked. and everything else they've miscalculated.
If they'd been prudent during the good times we'd have some money in the kitty to reduce the tax of fuel -but the cupboard is bare.
I predict two more years of spending & borrowing to try and win votes, a Tory victory, realisation the economy is in the sh***r, hard choices to me made by the Tories to get the economy back shape, everybody blaming the Tories for the current situation when it was Labour who royally screwed it up.
Sound familiar anyone over 38?????????????
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