Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797] - Page 706

**Paul** · 30-06-2008, 22:05

Note: The posts requesting money (and subsequent arguments) have been removed. Cable Forum is not the place to be asking for donations, about the only time we will allow that is for registered charities. Im afraid this does not fall into that category.

Wildie · 30-06-2008, 22:08

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...ht-protect-net not sure if it been seen before but dont look good

Portly_Giraffe · 30-06-2008, 22:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by popper

http://www.inphormationdesk.org/Phorm_Factsheet.pdf missing too

Restored now.

Ravenheart · 30-06-2008, 22:56

I see the the torrentfreak article on DPI has made the front page on Digg

Wildie · 30-06-2008, 23:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenheart

I see the the torrentfreak article on DPI has made the front page on Digg

think that was the expected result

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23

I have been noticing a lot of ads that i can not get rid of, i removed spyware bla bla etc. It reduce it a bit, so i decide to reinstall to remove it completely. But i am still get ads, so i went nto internet explroer and firefox and blocked webwise.com and weirdly the ads have stopped so i am speculating just now tha tmaybe virign are contucting trials of some sort.

[Mod Edit - Merged with the Phorm thread]

can anyone confirm what they are claiming?

Andrewcrawford23 · 30-06-2008, 23:08

I do say i am speculating but i think a fresh install means no spyware, adware etc. and it weird blockign webwise.com seems to stop it. If it is a trial it might only be a few hundred people

Ravenheart · 30-06-2008, 23:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildie

think that was the expected result

Indeed it was, but I don't think we've made the front page before.

Rchivist · 30-06-2008, 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildie

think that was the expected result

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can anyone confirm what they are claiming?

I wouldn't be too excited unless the ads seem to reflect your browsing "profile" - it could just mean that some oix sites/ads are being served up on sites you visit. It doesn't mean that webwise is live necessarily. Do you have all the various phorm/webwise sites blocked for cookie setting?

But we have been encouraged towards suspicion by the actions of both Phorm and BT so be suspicious - I would be!

Wildie · 30-06-2008, 23:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Jones

I wouldn't be too excited unless the ads seem to reflect your browsing "profile" - it could just mean that some oix sites/ads are being served up on sites you visit. It doesn't mean that webwise is live necessarily. Do you have all the various phorm/webwise sites blocked for cookie setting?

But we have been encouraged towards suspicion by the actions of both Phorm and BT so be suspicious - I would be!

Thats a point check your cookies for webwise.

SelfProtection · 30-06-2008, 23:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildie

Thats a point check your cookies for webwise.

It depends on how webwise is being blocked, remember webwise, phorm & oix are all sharing the same IP addresses.

igb · 01-07-2008, 00:09

Amusingly, after getting bounced around BT a bit, I managed to get an answer to my question about how it is that the privacy policy linked to from webwise.bt.com explicitly rules out profiling. My question was:

Quote:

Your privacy policy says:

``We do not use this information to:
identify individuals visiting our website; or
analyse your visits to any other websites (except that we do track
you if you go to websites carrying our banner, but we do not
identify personal details while we do this); or
track any Internet searches which you may make while on our website.''

However, webwise explicitly does analyse visits to other websites,
and explicitly does track Internet searches. How can it be
consistent with your privacy policy?

I was expecting them to say that either the policy will be changed to accommodate Phorm, or that by administrative fiat what Phorm are proposing doesn't involve profiling. But what I actually got was more intriguing:

Quote:

Webwise was only a trial from the 12th of March to the 16th April. BT Webwise was trialed to about 10,000 customers who would have been invited to participate into the service. Only if you chose to participate, would you receive the service

I'm assuming that this is just bad briefing, and that the person who answered my question had in front of them details of one of the many abandoned trials. But I am in my darker moments tempted to whip off a letter to the ICO, asking for their comments on the trial that BT have carried out but which doesn't figure in the FoI response that they made...

Wildie · 01-07-2008, 00:18

I read that as they did the trail with 10k invited customers.
maybe a clanger or a genuine mistake we shall never know for sure.

Privacy_Matters · 01-07-2008, 00:20

URGENT: Can someone please post a cookie that refers to 'digg' - I need to campare.

Preferably a VM Customer - or just any ISP

Ok in fact any cookie from any of the following sites:

pcadvisor.co.uk
csmonitor.com
independent.co.uk
pcpro.co.uk
telewest.co.uk
iii.co.uk
thesun.co.uk
bskyb.com
digg.com

If you prefer - please PM me.

AlexanderHanff · 01-07-2008, 01:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by popper

Alexader, i dont know if its just the files or the server is down but
http://www.paladine.org.uk/phorm_paper.pdf

and...
if anyone is interested I am currently writing a new article summarising the last 4 months. The first 5 pages are available as a pdf here:
http://www.paladine.org.uk/phorm.pdf

dont work anymore.

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http://www.inphormationdesk.org/Phorm_Factsheet.pdf missing too

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interesting that the mirror was mentioned in the CF thread above by a helpful new member as a reminder, it seems someone finally bumped that Phorm thread there and filled in some missing information

http://forums.mirror.co.uk/viewtopic...257448#1257448

I reinstalled my system last week and haven't set up apache yet, the paper is available on https://nodpi.org/documents/phorm_paper.pdf though.

warescouse · 01-07-2008, 01:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Privacy_Matters

URGENT: Can someone please post a cookie that refers to 'digg' - I need to campare.

Preferably a VM Customer - or just any ISP

Ok in fact any cookie from any of the following sites:

pcadvisor.co.uk
csmonitor.com
independent.co.uk
pcpro.co.uk
telewest.co.uk
iii.co.uk
thesun.co.uk
bskyb.com
digg.com

If you prefer - please PM me.

PM