Why Does Everyone Think Virgin Are Rubbish ?

[BenMcr]

Virgin Media are the old NTL, the old Telewest, the old Virgin Mobile and the old Virgin.net.

It is old all of them

[colin-bennett]

why is my last point in BOLD shawty
I did not type it that way ??????????????????????/
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[eth01]

stereotyypeeeeeeee

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

Virgin Media are the old NTL, the old Telewest, the old Virgin Mobile and the old Virgin.net.

It is old all of them

However the Virgin way of doing things seems to have made the whole lot a piece of old dogs do do.

[Mick Fisher]

Originally Posted by Sirius

However the Virgin way of doing things seems to have made the whole lot a piece of old dogs do do.

[shawty]

Originally Posted by colin-bennett

why is my last point in BOLD shawty
I did not type it that way ??????????????????????/
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What are you talking about? You written it. Ive just made it bold because it was the line I was qouting on.

You said and the line I made bold was "I am really sad to say VM are following in the footsteps of the old NTL."

My point is that Virgin Media is just a name change, the old NTL has never been anywhere, its still there and always has been. Virgin Media are following in the steps of the old NTL because they are the old NTL.

[colin-bennett]

Originally Posted by shawty

What are you talking about? You written it. Ive just made it bold because it was the line I was qouting on.

You said and the line I made bold was "I am really sad to say VM are following in the footsteps of the old NTL."

My point is that Virgin Media is just a name change, the old NTL has never been anywhere, its still there and always has been. Virgin Media are following in the steps of the old NTL because they are the old NTL.

You could make your point without changing my post ??????????????
My thoughts and comments were based on the complete post.not just the bold area YOU CHOSE TO CHANGE

Originally Posted by colin-bennett

You could make your point without changing my post ??????????????
My thoughts and comments were the complete post not just the bold area YOU CHOSE TO CHANGE

He changed nothing just emphasised a line.

[colin-bennett]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

He changed nothing just emphasised a line but perhaps he made a mistake by doing this and is perhaps sorry

If posts can be altered then the above is ok ??

Do you agree.

If not where do you draw the line ?????

Originally Posted by colin-bennett

If posts can be altered then the above is ok ??

Do you agree.

If not where do the draw the line ?????

oooh you do like to stir it don't you?

[colin-bennett]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

oooh you do like to stir it don't you?

My point is simple.
We do not change or alter a post.

Originally Posted by colin-bennett

My point is simple.
We do not change or alter a post.

Emphasising a line is not altering or changing.It is a valid way of highlighting perceived flaws in a statement.It is a perfectly acceptable debating tool.

[shawty]

Originally Posted by colin-bennett

You could make your point without changing my post ??????????????
My thoughts and comments were based on the complete post.not just the bold area YOU CHOSE TO CHANGE

Excuse me but maybe you should learn between changing peoples posts and just bolding bits you want to respond on.

My comments were based on your comment (comment without the 's' at the end to make comments, as then I would comment on the whole post).

I think you will find that this is an everyday occurence on forums.

---------- Post added at 15:50 ---------- Previous post was at 15:48 ----------

Originally Posted by colin-bennett

If posts can be altered then the above is ok ??

Do you agree.

If not where do you draw the line ?????

What you did there is totally different. You have changed what someone has said and that is totally wrong. Bolding a sentance on which I want to comment on is not in the slightest bit wrong.

---------- Post added at 15:52 ---------- Previous post was at 15:50 ----------

Originally Posted by colin-bennett

My point is simple.
We do not change or alter a post.

I know we dont, I never apart from bolding a sentance. Dont like it, complain to the moderators, but they wont do anything as its a common feature of Internet forums.

[snazzy]

I don't think there are rubbish but, Their broadband service has taken seven months to get repaired after countless promises. It's only just been done so I am unsure if it realoly is fixed.

I also don't think they are rubbish when they make an appointment to fix a box, tell me there's a fee to pay if I'm not in, then don't bother their arses to turn, and know nothing about the appointment when I ring up to complain.

I don't think they are rubbish when I ring tech support and can't understand a damn word that is being said to me on the other end of the line.

When everything is working and I get to speak to someone from the same planet it's all good.

[m419]

[quote=BenMcr;34579666]I doubt if they did that it would bring in enough revenue to maintain the network.

Oh and and XL BB when you swap your phone to Virgin is only £20 per month.



Yes they did, and they both got sold, so hardly a advert for that business model

AOL was sold off because it lost its customers to cheaper alternatives that offered TV,homephone or mobile or all 3. Since AOL costs £14.99 per month just for broadband alone, many people saw that Tiscali was more cost effective because for £15.99, you can get Broadband,Free weekend calls and line rental! So its no wonder they are giving away laptops!

Bulldog was sold because of financial problems and esculating issues with its billing system furthermore its company reputation is very bad, and lastly its customer numbers dropped from 150,000 to 110,000 within 9 months! 2005 to 2006. Thats a lot of custom lost.

The companies which offer two or more services are the ones which will succeed.

Other companies that should be worried:

T-Mobile- Only offer mobile phone services

Hutchison 3G- Only offers mobile phone services

Vonage- only offers Voip. Unlimited calls to landlines cost roughly the same with Virgin and BT.

O2-Since the launch of O2 Broadband,its more secure,although customer base is still relatively low compared to Orange,Virgin and Tiscali.

Demon Internet- Very expensive and is already fading, I bet some people on CF dont even know what Demon is.

So it just shows that offering 2 or more services really does work wonders for your telecoms business!

Other companies which were swallowed up because of this very reason:

Tele2-Swallowed up by TalkTalk. Tele2 only offered basic homephone in the UK.

Toucan: Swallowed up by Pipex which was also taken over by Tiscali.

One Tel/Centrica Telecoms: Swallowed up by TalkTalk because profit margins were too small.