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[antihanff.com]

Originally Posted by Paul Delaney

@ antihanff.com

You've read all the posts in this thread and you can't see what we're on about?

Is English not your first language by any chance?

Admin Edit (Stuart): Deleted

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Originally Posted by JackSon

So much to pick, but so little time (because I do have a job in which to first have a good nights sleep for). So I will just take one piece of your missive for now, my favourite part.

It does make me smile that you consider the Foundation for Information Policy Research and the Open Rights Group plus all associated academics of the more renkown universities as 'ranting amateurs'.

However, if I am permitted to play devil's advocate and ask you which area of this whole debacle that you don't get? I will admire that, it takes courage to put your hand up and say "I don't understand this, can someone helo me?" More courage than to shun the entire debate beacuse it is either over your grasp, or, worse still, becasue you have vested interests in it succeeding.

So I ask, which will it be, would you like help?

Just try google liberty or civil rights or religious freedom and find how many people out there CLAIM something is ILLEGAL and then find actually all is okay.

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Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

Hello HamsterWheel, if you are not him you are certainly one of his.

Alexander Hanff

WHO IS HAMSTER?

[Tharrick]

Looks like I logged on at exactly the right moment.


Hey, Alex, is this El Reg post about you?

Even if it isn't, this strikes me as a very scientology-esque method - dig out something in somebody's past that might discredit them today, or make something up if you can't find anything. However, it seems that our anti-Hanff here hasn't bothered to really read these articles - like the bits where it states that Alex was actually not involved in the bittorrent stuff aside from paying for the server-space. Not to mention the fact that bittorrent by itself is not illegal.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by antihanff.com

A lot has been said about being fair, and a lot has been said about not being insulting to others on this forum. I have taken the time to read EVERY post on this thread, including most of the references.

I JUST DONT GET WHAT YOU GUYS ARE ON ABOUT.

Whilst I see that BT and Phorm have been dispicable in the trials by not informing users and totally disregarding the customers interests I don't see why the issue of targeted advertising itself is such a problem to you all.

You clearly haven't read all the thread then. Admittedly, at nearly 10,000 posts, I don't blame you.

My particular problems with Phorm (as I have explained a couple of times) are simple. I don't object to them tracking me, as long as the fact that they are doing so is clearly explained (which neither BT nor Phorm have done in the mainstream press) and I can opt in (not out).

No, my problem is that the people behind Phorm have, er, form (look up 121media) for lying to people, and considering that they claim that all the processing is done within your ISP's network, they have an awful lot of hardware installed in Data Centres in countries not known for their Data Protection and Freedom of Information laws (China and Russia). This, combined with the fact that the system actually stores your browsing data for a while before anonymising it (thus ensuring it will attract hackers).

Oh, and I just looked up your IP. Odd how all the Pro phorm people I have seen have BTCentral Ips..

[antihanff.com]

Originally Posted by Tharrick

Looks like I logged on at exactly the right moment.


Hey, Alex, is this El Reg post about you?

Even if it isn't, this strikes me as a very scientology-esque method - dig out something in somebody's past that might discredit them today, or make something up if you can't find anything. However, it seems that our anti-Hanff here hasn't bothered to really read these articles - like the bits where it states that Alex was actually not involved in the bittorrent stuff aside from paying for the server-space. Not to mention the fact that bittorrent by itself is not illegal.

Thank you I see I am not the only one against this CAMPAIGN OF TERROR against LEGITIMATE business and INNOCENT SHAREHOLDERS

[Tharrick]

Oh, and I just looked up your IP. Odd how all the Pro phorm people I have seen have BTCentral Ips..

It's not paranoia if you can actually see the black helicopters hovering outside your window

[antihanff.com]

Originally Posted by Tharrick

It's not paranoia if you can actually see the black helicopters hovering outside your window

DID YOU JUST BREAK THE DATA PROTECTION?

[Tharrick]

Originally Posted by antihanff.com

Thank you I see I am not the only one against this CAMPAIGN OF TERROR against innocent business

Ah, an Ertugrul-scale misquote.

Firstly, I'd like to think that I'm on the forefront of this campaign, or at least no more than three ranks back from such, given the amount of writing to MPs, MEPs and the like I've been doing over the past few weeks.
Secondly, if you actually read my post, you'll find that I both point out that anything you can dig out in Alex's past is irrelevant, and also that you're guilty of some major ad hominem here, in the same way as the Church of Scientology.

[icsys]

Originally Posted by antihanff.com

Thank you I see I am not the only one against this CAMPAIGN OF TERROR against LEGITIMATE business and INNOCENT SHAREHOLDERS

No one claimed you are alone, although as you are intent on being abusive it is possible you are a loner and seeking attention.

[antihanff.com]

Originally Posted by Stuart C

Oh, and I just looked up your IP. Odd how all the Pro phorm people I have seen have BTCentral Ips..

DId you just breach the data protection act you shouldnt be looking at my IP. JAIL!

[NewsreadeR]

Originally Posted by antihanff.com

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Welcome aboard anti

Struggling to guess the letters on that word in your post though. When I was at school, there would have only been three *'s

Nice to see your reasoned debate though. Very impressed that you have done your homework, and read all the posts in this thread. However, I think personally, you wasted your time, as I really don't think you have understood what the thread was about. Oh well, at least it kept you off the streets for ten days though.

ps - Your domain don't work.

Originally Posted by antihanff.com

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I only asked a question - you must be an investor then - they're really touchy?

You sure you're not from ADVFN - they're all foul mouthed there?

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by antihanff.com

Thank you I see I am not the only one against this CAMPAIGN OF TERROR against LEGITIMATE business and INNOCENT SHAREHOLDERS

Campaign of terror? Grow up.

[antihanff.com]

Originally Posted by icsys

No one claimed you are alone, although as you are intent on being abusive it is possible you are a loner and seeking attention.

Just reat inteactive investor thread and see who is being abusive to people? And a few time s on this thread too. One rule for you guys and anyone else bets BULLLIES into SUBMISSION

[Privacy_Matters]

Originally Posted by antihanff.com

I cant wait to see 2 or 3 people "protesting" next week.

That would be a great start Protesters turning up 3 weeks early

[AlexanderHanff]

Originally Posted by antihanff.com

Thank you I see I am not the only one against this CAMPAIGN OF TERROR against LEGITIMATE business and INNOCENT SHAREHOLDERS

Oh you are a shareholder! That explains it. You won't get any sympathy from me for not bothering to research your investments before making them and I doubt you will get any sympathy from anyone else here either. If you invested a little more ethically you wouldn't be in the situation you are currently in with an investment in a company which is dying before it has even started.

Alexander Hanff