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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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 Hehe, yeah, I get "not enabled", then "off", then "on" and then back to "not enabled".
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-06-2008, 13:25
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				Hehe, yeah, I get "not enabled", then "off", then "on" and then back to "not enabled". 
			
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 Same result here too.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-06-2008, 13:26
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			They've put a video on the page, check out the location: 
http://s3.amazonaws.com/phorm/PrivacyLongGen2.flv
It's hosted on an amazon server.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-06-2008, 13:30
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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			03-06-2008, 13:42
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				Hehe, yeah, I get "not enabled", then "off", then "on" and then back to "not enabled". 
			
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 Looks like they are developing/testing on the live website - fills you with confidence doesn't it!
 
They should realise that we will spot anything like that by now!
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Do we need to post the following to as many forums as possible?
 
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			03-06-2008, 13:46
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			what gets me is they using cookies for opt out so you still going thorough the dam phorm dpi kit.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-06-2008, 13:52
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				Hehe, yeah, I get "not enabled", then "off", then "on" and then back to "not enabled". 
			
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 Same result here - commercial sdsl line
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-06-2008, 13:55
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				what gets me is they using cookies for opt out so you still going thorough the dam phorm dpi kit. 
			
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 And if an occasional Alert comes up on any Web Page that reminds you that Webwise is "on" or "OFF" it proves the Phorm System is still monitoring & "Occasionally setting ads", in particular the AD to tell you Webwise is "OFF"????.
 
Mentioned in the Video above!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-06-2008, 14:01
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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 No cookie setting detected here, but it is odd.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-06-2008, 14:09
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			Did anyone notice that in the video the ISP's listed as offering webwise were BT and Talk Talk, no mention of VM?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			I got webwise is switched On. 
No cookies set, which is not surprising as i have webwise cookies blocked.  
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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 It isn't setting cookies at the moment, just rotating between the various on/off/not enabled pages.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			03-06-2008, 14:20
			
			
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				How many ISP's are preparing to participate in the Webwise "trial". 
If I go to  http://www.webwise.com/privacy/can-choose-NA.html from the office I get a page that says:
 
You Can Choose 
Webwise is currently not enabled by your ISP 
 
If I go to the same page from my home connection I get:
 
You Can Choose 
Webwise is currently: OFF
 
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 I am with VM and i get presented with:
 
You Can Choose 
Webwise is currently not enabled by your ISP
 
No cookies set. 
However visiting  http://www.webwise.com/privacy/opt/out.html sets a cookie as before:
 
OPTED_OUT 
YES 
webwise.net/ 
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 privacy/can-choose-on.html and  privacy/can-choose-off.html seem to be mirrors of
 privacy/opt/in.html and  privacy/opt/out.html but the latter have less text.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				Hehe, yeah, I get "not enabled", then "off", then "on" and then back to "not enabled". 
			
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 Hi, Yes I am getting exactly the same to!
 
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				Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			After watching that video, I noted several times the phrase 'webwise never knows where you have been'. Then, further on the video goes on to say 'user 123 has been to travel sites X or Y'. But I thought that 'webwise never knows where you have been'?. How then do you know I have been to website X or Y?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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