New STM/Virgin traffic managent confirmed - so that's why it's slow! - Page 11

Sirius · 28-05-2008, 20:10

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Originally Posted by TraxData

Oh ok, see, VM enjoy customers like you, they know they can rip you off, take 75% of your connection away from you and you'll still sing praise to them.

Oh well.

Whats your problem. Your not a customer according to your services info. So are you just here to stir up trouble and gloat ?

28-05-2008, 20:11

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Whats your problem. Your not a customer according to your services info.

I have issues with people calling me a liar...especially when i've proved so many times not to be.

28-05-2008, 20:12

for the price I pay they can stm'd all they like I WILL STILL CONTINUE TO DOWNLOAD AND GET MY STUFF I WANT

Sirius · 28-05-2008, 20:14

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Originally Posted by TraxData

I have issues with people calling me a liar...especially when i've proved so many times not to be.

But your happy to call others the same ?

28-05-2008, 20:15

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Originally Posted by Sirius

But your happy to call others the same ?

Only when they start it.

If you had pm'd me and had a chat about the new stm i would of been happily to do so and share some of my information with you, but coming on here to mouth me off for no reason is unfair, dont you think?

Sirius · 28-05-2008, 20:17

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Originally Posted by TraxData

Only when they start it.

If you had pm'd me and had a chat about the new stm i would of been happily to do so and share some of my information with you, but coming on here to mouth me off for no reason is unfair, dont you think?

What annoyed me is the way you gloated about it. I see you have changed what you posted now. Telling people that they can no longer download was incorrect no matter how you worded it.

28-05-2008, 20:18

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Originally Posted by Sirius

What annoyed me is they way you gloated about. I see you have changed what you posted now.

I didnt gloat about it, i said read em and weep.

It's a common saying, i did NOT mean to come across as gloating.

Although one should note i did say this was going to be rolled out nationally and had people calling me a liar then as well.

I just get sick of people doing it when i've been spot on 100% all the time (for the most part) your info is usually spot on as well, but you are wrong about the overnight stm.

Sirius · 28-05-2008, 20:22

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Originally Posted by TraxData

Although one should note i did say this was going to be rolled out nationally and had people calling me a liar then as well.

I knew that was about to happen as well. However my source would have never given me any more info if he had seen me post about it.

Just made a call to someone in the know, who said he knows nothing about overnight STM running on a trial at the moment. Says it was ruled out of the equation for now. ? He might be wrong but his info is normally accurate and has matched a lot of your posts in the past.

**Mick** · 28-05-2008, 20:23

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Originally Posted by darthlinux

for the price I pay they can stm'd all they like I WILL STILL CONTINUE TO DOWNLOAD AND GET MY STUFF I WANT

Firstly - Do not use caps please - shouting is extremely bad net ettiquette.

Secondly - you may still get what you want but it will take you longer to obtain it at a reduced speed.

Seems strange to pay for a price for a service only to see it get reduced dramatically in some cases.

28-05-2008, 20:27

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Originally Posted by Sirius

I knew that was about to happen as well. However my source would have never given me any more info if he had seen me post about it.

My sources never get caught

But back to the topic at hand, i find it hard how they can still class this service as unlimited when you have all day STM.

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Originally Posted by Mick

Firstly - Do not use caps please - shouting is extremely bad net ettiquette.

Secondly - you may still get what you want but it will take you longer to obtain it at a reduced speed.

Seems strange to pay for a price for a service only to see it get reduced dramatically in some cases.

Exactly! the toothless ASA says this is still unlimited though

piggy · 28-05-2008, 20:31

the advertising language is something that needs sorting with all isps the adverts are just plain wrong

AbyssUnderground · 28-05-2008, 20:34

I was happy with STM until I saw they are now doing daytime throttling as well. Why don't they just tell everyone plain and simple "we can't give you the speed you pay for" instead of fobbing us all off with lies and excuses as to why they are dropping our speed.

To me, a few GB in the evening is nothing. I do a lot of web design and graphic design. I can easily push a few GB in a few hours with that. I also collect beta software which can come in the GB's every day as well.

They say they're not cutting down on costs, but thats obviously a lie when they are cutting our speed and telling us its because we use too much. Who are they to judge if I'm using too much? They don't know my browsing habbits. They don't know what I need to use my connection for. Who are they to say what I can and can't download and at what times?

Gary L · 28-05-2008, 20:36

On that page they have clearly said that there are limits, and quite clearly stated what those limits are. before you could download X amount, now you can only download X amount. on another page they are saying that they are still UNLIMITED.

It is ridiculous to be putting the blame on the customers. now they have officialy opened the gates.
Think of how many people receiving this letter and how it is the first thing they've ever heard of the thing called STM.

punky · 28-05-2008, 20:36

10am - 4pm on a weekday is now peak?

So after stopping users from downloading after 4pm (i.e. when they actually want to), and forcing them to download during the day, now that people are doing it, VM are now calling 10am-4pm as peak time. By the end of the year off-peak will be down to 3:30am - 4:00am

**Mick** · 28-05-2008, 20:39

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Originally Posted by piggy

the advertising language is something that needs sorting with all isps the adverts are just plain wrong

That is exactly what needs to be done - I fully take on board VM have to protect their network for stability.

What I am taking exception to is that Virgin Media are advertising it as a No limiting service. So customers who see this will assume this is exactly what they can do.

Yeah downloads can continue, but a reduced speed. So regardless of all the semantics in this, Virgin Media are applying download limits.