Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797] - Page 350

vicz · 01-05-2008, 17:53

Whoa just up on the Reg
Virgin Media distances itself from Phorm 'adoption' claims

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05...rm_misleading/

Rchivist · 01-05-2008, 17:56

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Originally Posted by GoldenBoar

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There too many pages to check through, so perhaps someone can answer this for me.

Will the popup to get consent, be a web browser popup?
If so then how will it get past pop up blockers, etc.?
If not, then how do you think a personal firewall such as Comodo or even Vista's built-in one, will deal with it?

Didn't BT say that if the user does not agree or disagree to the popup, then they will have a dead internet connection.

Most PC's (from PC world, etc) come with Norton installed and some ISPs provide security software with a firewall.

BT are moving on this one, and redesigning their trial on the fly to bring in a cookie free way of not being in the trial. They haven't finally confirmed that it will be ready for the trial, but I can't see them launching a trial dependent on an opt-out cookie. (unless they are really really stupid...)
They have NOT yet clarified what will be happening to the web traffic of non opted-in customers in this retrofitted system, or whether non opted-in customers will get their browsing broken by blocking the webwise related domains. In fact they have left all the really important questions very vague. Their latest date for starting the trials is by May 26th.

They haven't said how the Webwise invitation will arrive or where or when or what the page will say. I'll let you know anything I find out by posting here.

And yes - I realise that whatever they do, the trial will still be illegal. And I've told them that again today through several routes.

AlexanderHanff · 01-05-2008, 17:57

VM Officially Respond to customer's concerns about Phorm.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05...rm_misleading/

Alexander Hanff

Meh Beaten Again!

Toto · 01-05-2008, 17:59

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Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

VM Officially Respond to customer's concerns about Phorm.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05...rm_misleading/

Alexander Hanff

Very interesting.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vicz

Whoa just up on the Reg
Virgin Media distances itself from Phorm 'adoption' claims

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05...rm_misleading/

Well done for finding this.

Rchivist · 01-05-2008, 18:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by vicz

Whoa just up on the Reg
Virgin Media distances itself from Phorm 'adoption' claims

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05...rm_misleading/

Deep joy!

mark777 · 01-05-2008, 18:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by vicz

Whoa just up on the Reg
Virgin Media distances itself from Phorm 'adoption' claims

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05...rm_misleading/

The fact that VM feel the need to do this shows they are worried about the adverse publicity. This reaffirms that they are 'just' sitting on the fence.

Time to double efforts then.

BT, VM and Phorm must be at it hammer and tongs behind the scenes and it will be the little 'un that gets squashed.

Too late today to hit the share price unfortunately.

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The link from the VM 'Customer Zone' now says Phorm and webwise. (It was just webwise before). Nice of them to make the link.

Barkotron · 01-05-2008, 18:05

Come on VM! Keep distancing yourself, as long as you eventually say "we're not going to work with these crooks". I could really do without having to change TV and ISP, I like what I've got now...

Paddy1 · 01-05-2008, 18:06

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Originally Posted by El Reg

Phorm CEO Kent Ertugrul appeared to suggest a tighter relationship in the firm's recent preliminary annual report on 10 April:

We announced exclusive agreements with three major UK ISPs – BT, Talk Talk and Virgin Media, which represent nearly 70 per cent of the UK internet market, to adopt our online advertising platform, the Open Internet Exchange (OIX), and a consumer internet feature, Webwise.

Surely its a big no no to tell outright lies in your annual report. Or at least be misleading.

jca111 · 01-05-2008, 18:07

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Originally Posted by vicz

Whoa just up on the Reg
Virgin Media distances itself from Phorm 'adoption' claims

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05...rm_misleading/

This is making my day - lets see the stock price plummet tomorrow hopefully.

Come on VM - you know you want to do the good thing - kick it into touch completely! I dont want to change my ISP, or TV - especially since iPlayer was launched on VM TV yesterday - its brill (although some of the interface needs some tweaking - like adding dates to list etc)

ceedee · 01-05-2008, 18:10

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Originally Posted by BetBlowWhistler

I also like the nice little touch of the filename for Alex's award

pmsl

vicz · 01-05-2008, 18:16

Tankety-tank

http://www.iii.co.uk/investment/deta...=summary&it=le

roadrunner69 · 01-05-2008, 18:18

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05...rm_misleading/

About bloody time too.

Now if VM want to borrow a 20ft barge pole, i'm sure i've got one lying around somewhere

OF1975 · 01-05-2008, 18:21

First off may I welcome those awards for Alexander and BetBlowWhistler. I wholeheartedly think both are very deserving of recognition.

The VM news is very welcome and a nice bit of news to return home to. Viva la resistance!

ceedee · 01-05-2008, 18:25

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Originally Posted by vicz

Tankety-tank

http://www.iii.co.uk/investment/deta...=summary&it=le

Wishful thinking perhaps?

mark777 · 01-05-2008, 18:26

@Alexander

Did Kent refer to the VM tie-in in the click interview?

Strikes me that if he did, the BBC can't not reference the VM statement. He might end up looking an even bigger idiot.