New trial Wigan Area - Page 4

15-04-2008, 13:35

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Originally Posted by NotaVMFan

Sorry,
A Power User meaning anymore than Surfing/Emailing..

They're not 'power users'. The people that are being targeted are the supposed top 5% of downloaders.
Or as I said, anyone who has the audacity to download more than their connection can do in roughly 20 mins to half an hour.

CrowmanUK · 15-04-2008, 14:08

I think its only the top 5% of downloaders on ADSL mate, its working differently for cable broadband, on there you have limits that if you hit you get traffic managed.

frogstamper · 15-04-2008, 14:10

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Originally Posted by kryogenik

They're not 'power users'. The people that are being targeted are the supposed top 5% of downloaders.
Or as I said, anyone who has the audacity to download more than their connection can do in roughly 20 mins to half an hour.

20 minuets of using your connection at full speed!! the shear greed of it.

15-04-2008, 14:12

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Originally Posted by CrowmanUK

I think its only the top 5% of downloaders on ADSL mate, its working differently for cable broadband, on there you have limits that if you hit you get traffic managed.

Yeah, what I mean is, VM are saying that the people hitting these limits are only the top 5% of the customers downloading. i.e 'the vast majority'.

frogstamper · 15-04-2008, 17:45

Id be interested to see on an average night how many people fall fail of stm, Id lay money its more than 5%

15-04-2008, 17:46

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Originally Posted by frogstamper

Id be interested to see on an average night how many people fall fail of stm, Id lay money its more than 5%

For where i live its around 70% of everyone (daily)....i know that's true as i've seen the logs.

For manchester it was around 86%

frogstamper · 15-04-2008, 17:58

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Originally Posted by TraxData

For where i live its around 70% of everyone (daily)....i know that's true as i've seen the logs.

For manchester it was around 86%

VM know full well its more than the claimed 5%, when they set such low threshold's most people will exceed it, but I had no idea it was as high as 70%. But still they keep spending on advertising and putting ever more people on an already over loaded network. I mean it seems to me VM have all but excepted Sky have won the TV battle, and that their BB is their flagship product, if they carry on this way their flagship will sink.

dammydam · 15-04-2008, 20:45

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Originally Posted by NotaVMFan

normal joe soap will probably remain unaffected...

Am sorry i have to disagree.

Scenario:
Normal Joe Soap logs on to the virgin media web site,starts browsing through the deals and see the package he/she wants. Types in post code number WN5XXX(Wigan under new STM). Lets see if it mentions the new trails?

Result!
Good news, you can receive a cable service in your street.

This means we can deliver service using fibre optic cable specifically designed to carry high speed internet, digital TV and phone. It's reliable, unaffected by the weather and the quality of service is not base on far you live from the telephone exchange - unlike all other broadband providers.

Umm Nope

Oh but hang on it mentions about new changes

http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html/help/changes.html

Umm Still nope.

He/she continues to sign up and waits for there cable internet to be installed. Obviously totally unware of the trial. Two weeks in he/she is on the premium phone line complaining about the speed and getting fobbed off with it's network this, it's network that excuses. Meanwhile VirginMedia cash in on his/her lack of knowledge.

And the cycle repeats and repeats........

It's the same for current Joe Soap subscribers. VirginMedia could easily E-mail everybody under the trial and save them time,effort and money.but they choose not too. They choose instead to abuse there customer base. Which is a total disgrace.

This is the reason why VirginMedia has to be transparent with the trials taking place.

David

hokkers999 · 15-04-2008, 20:51

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Originally Posted by Caster

Remember when we had fast internet access? That was great.

Yep sure do, back in 2000 we got this blazingly fast 512k and we were very happy with it. You're just spoiled nowadays.

15-04-2008, 21:29

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Originally Posted by hokkers999

Yep sure do, back in 2000 we got this blazingly fast 512k and we were very happy with it. You're just spoiled nowadays.

I remember when 28.8k was blazingly fast...

/showing age.

I also remember when 64k ISDN was all the rage, hmm those were the days.

15-04-2008, 21:36

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Originally Posted by TraxData

I rememebr when 28.8k was blazingly fast...

/showing age.

Oh yes!
And the will it/won't it connect free dial up ISP, X-Stream back in 97!
Haha! Brilliant.

Usenet ruled in those days.

broadbandbug · 24-04-2008, 20:22

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Originally Posted by kryogenik

They're not 'power users'. The people that are being targeted are the supposed top 5% of downloaders.
Or as I said, anyone who has the audacity to download more than their connection can do in roughly 20 mins to half an hour.

Their connection running at full line rate for that time.. How long do you want to be able to run at full line rate for per 24Hours?

24-04-2008, 20:23

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Originally Posted by broadbandbug

Their connection running at full line rate for that time.. How long do you want to be able to run at full line rate for per 24Hours?

Longer than 20 minutes.

Most people are at work in the day and sleep at night, at Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£37/month its not unfair to want to be able to use it at full rate for just a few minutes.

broadbandbug · 24-04-2008, 21:01

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Originally Posted by TraxData

Longer than 20 minutes.

Most people are at work in the day and sleep at night, at Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£37/month its not unfair to want to be able to use it at full rate for just a few minutes.

Ok so longer than 20 minutes but for how long.. If you were able to have a limit set for you to meet your needs what would it be during the 1600 - 2100 Peak Traffic Period?

24-04-2008, 21:04

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Originally Posted by broadbandbug

Ok so longer than 20 minutes but for how long.. If you were able to have a limit set for you to meet your needs what would it be during the 1600 - 2100 Peak Traffic Period?

For as long as i wish to use it, i suppose, im not gonna go and set a limit, im paying for a connection, if i wanna use it when im home, then i should be Able to without having 75% of it taken off me for wanting to use it for what it was actually made for, people dont go upgrading to 20mbit just to look at emails quicker, we upgrade because we want files faster...yet if we try doing so we get traffic managed...which makes it a complete waste of time...i want the old telewest/NTL days back, ireally do, VM really only had broadband going for it...and they have managed to royally screw that now...

You cant offer *unlimited* upto (cough) 20mbit connections then complain when users actually want to use it =/