New trial Wigan Area

[shawty]

Originally Posted by TraxData

Wrong, the new trial hours are 1pm-10pm.

Also a seperate trial running elsewhere (unknown as to where?) where they initiate a second STM from midnight-7am (upload stm)

Maybe they should just go 24 hours and be done with it. What are we actually allowed to use our superfast 20mb for now? It seems they obviously want to limit it as much as possible.

[brundles]

Originally Posted by shawty

Because everyone downloading during the peak hours, started downloading at the off peak hours, I guess anyway.

That's actually probably not too far from what's happened. Although I do a lot of my downloading overnight, there is some stuff I used to download in the afternoon that I now download late morning/lunchtime.

I must admit that (in the case of the L package) an 800meg limit over 10 hours is pretty poor.

[dammydam]

Originally Posted by TraxData

Wrong, the new trial hours are 1pm-10pm.

Also a seperate trial running elsewhere (unknown as to where?) where they initiate a second STM from midnight-7am (upload stm)

I can only relay the information i have received from a VirginMedia operative today. I was traffic shaped today just after 1pm. However, i only logged on the internet at 12.45.

You might be right and the VirginMedia operative might be wrong as i have no data from 11am. I will know for certain tomorrow as i will attempt to trigger the traffic shaping policy at 11am

will post back tomorrow

David

[Cobbydaler]

Originally Posted by TraxData

Wrong, the new trial hours are 1pm-10pm.

Also a seperate trial running elsewhere (unknown as to where?) where they initiate a second STM from midnight-7am (upload stm)

So in any 24 hour period your connection won't potentially be subject to 'management' for only 8 hours?

Ridiculous...

[Gary L]

Some people sleep for 8 hours.

[Cobbydaler]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Some people sleep for 8 hours.

But some people leave their box on 24/7...

[edit]

That's box as in PC, not STB or item of protective clothing only usually worn during a batsman's stay at the crease...

[dcclanuk]

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

So in any 24 hour period your connection won't potentially be subject to 'management' for only 8 hours?

Ridiculous...

But if u trigger the STM 1 minute before the time, say 8.59pm, then that 8 hours comes down to 3/4 hours

I think I am going to leave VIRGIN MEDIA veryyyyyyyy soooooooooon!

Where to? ADSL, because I don't live in a village, I will get decent speeds. Had 8mb before, and got 7.1mb or something, way better than this JOKE of an internet "provider".

Veryyyyy angry at Virgin Media's STUPIDITY. On one hand provider's are providing FASTER internet [be it with a cap of say 30gb peak 300gb offpeak etc], but that is still better than this crap VM have come up with.

NOT HAPPY AT ALLLL

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

So in any 24 hour period your connection won't potentially be subject to 'management' for only 8 hours?

Ridiculous...

well, to be fair, I would imagine an upload cap after midnight would be designed to 'catch' p2p traffic, but I agree, it does, in my opinion, make the provision of any more than slow speed access questionable, as using an high speed connection will be degraded for such an extended period, if upload & download are taken into consideration.

The point being if you only get slow speed most of the day due to STM, then there is a case for only paying for a slow speed..

[frogstamper]

Didn't VM say that they would keep us informed as to any changes to the stm rules? Even if it is a trial is it honestly fair that some poor person who sticks by the rules and avoids "excessive" downloading between 16.00pm and 21.00pm, decides to use his service at lunchtime in the knowledge he is safe from being stm,d, then has their speed crippled through no fault of their own.
Personally I can understand VMs stm policy, but to keep customers in the dark and move the goalposts without informing people is downright deceitful.

PS If VM carry on with these undeclared stm "experiments" who on earth would want a 20mb let alone a 50mb connection. I feel sorry for the poor sod who has to try and justify this to a irate customer.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by homealone

The point being if you only get slow speed most of the day due to STM, then there is a case for only paying for a slow speed..

There is another way

Move to a good provider like Be unlimited and hit VM in the pocket. This is yet another 2 fingers at it's paying customers.

All i am waiting for now is that letter of intent to spy on us and then i am moving my services.

[slowcoach]

The brains at VM must be really frustrated, how to provide no service at all yet still keep all the subscribers, this is going to take some head scratching. No doubt one bright spark will come up with the answer eventually.

In the meantime, BT are currently replacing the feed to the local cab so hopefully I will have an alternative solution soon.

[dammydam]

Update:

i've tested the traffic shaping this morning at 11am

DU Meter Stopwatch - #1
Start time 11/04/2008 11:00:00
Stop time 11/04/2008 11:22:51
Elapsed time 22 min 50.2 sec
Incoming Outgoing
------------------------------------ ---------------- ----------------
Total of data transferred 272.4 MB 6.6 MB
Maximum transfer rate 2.2 Mbps 65.8 kbps
Average transfer rate 1.7 Mbps 40.3 kbps


STM kicked just after 11am

Start time 11/04/2008 11:22:53
Stop time 11/04/2008 11:42:36
Elapsed time 19 min 43.4 sec
Incoming Outgoing
------------------------------------ ---------------- ----------------
Total of data transferred 140.8 MB 3.9 MB
Maximum transfer rate 1.0 Mbps 35.0 kbps
Average transfer rate 998.3 kbps 27.6 kbps


The VirginMedia operative was correct. i will check later in the week regarding the STM cut off time and see if it's 9pm or 10pm. It was also mentioned within this thread that there could be another STM during the night. i will also check that and keep you informed.

Originally Posted by frogstamper

Didn't VM say that they would keep us informed as to any changes to the stm rules? Even if it is a trial is it honestly fair that some poor person who sticks by the rules and avoids "excessive" downloading between 16.00pm and 21.00pm, decides to use his service at lunchtime in the knowledge he is safe from being stm,d, then has their speed crippled through no fault of their own.
Personally I can understand VMs stm policy, but to keep customers in the dark and move the goalposts without informing people is downright deceitful.

PS If VM carry on with these undeclared stm "experiments" who on earth would want a 20mb let alone a 50mb connection. I feel sorry for the poor sod who has to try and justify this to a irate customer.

These are currently trials, so VM dont have to inform anybody...they are always running and different trials in specific areas...

It's a waste of time asking as well as they wont discuss them, we only get to find out through people higher up in the chain who are annoyed by it all...

[slowcoach]

Originally Posted by slowcoach

In the meantime, BT are currently replacing the feed to the local cab so hopefully I will have an alternative solution soon.

Bad news, spoke to the engineers who said that they were just replacing a recently damaged main cable to the CAB.

[dammydam]

i couldn't trigger STM at 10pm and there's no evidence of STM from 12am-7am.

Did another test this morning.


DU Meter Stopwatch - STM NON-ACTIVE
Start time 12/04/2008 11:00:01
Stop time 12/04/2008 11:31:03
Elapsed time 31 min 2.8 sec
Incoming Outgoing
------------------------------------ ---------------- ----------------
Total of data transferred 473.8 MB 11.3 MB
Maximum transfer rate 266.9 KB/s 8.0 KB/s
Average transfer rate 260.5 KB/s 6.2 KB/s


DU Meter Stopwatch - STM ACTIVE
Start time 12/04/2008 11:31:07
Stop time 12/04/2008 11:41:52
Elapsed time 10 min 45.4 sec
Incoming Outgoing
------------------------------------ ---------------- ----------------
Total of data transferred 76.5 MB 2.3 MB
Maximum transfer rate 129.8 KB/s 21.1 KB/s
Average transfer rate 121.4 KB/s 3.6 KB/s


DU Meter Stopwatch - FTP UPLOAD STM ACTIVE
Start time 12/04/2008 11:43:27
Stop time 12/04/2008 11:52:33
Elapsed time 9 min 6.0 sec
Incoming Outgoing
------------------------------------ ---------------- ----------------
Total of data transferred 176.2 KB 8.1 MB
Maximum transfer rate 10.0 kbps 352.8 kbps
Average transfer rate 2.6 kbps 123.7 kbps

STM trial policy am currently under is
11am-9pm

David