17th suicide in Bridgend

Originally Posted by tweetypie/8

tragic loss of young lives,where does it all end.

As a statistic, apparently.

Originally Posted by Incognitas

Well I'm sure 17 families will be comforted by the stats...

I think the familys would like it better if the media was not trying to make a conspiracy story out of the deaths to help sell papers/get viewers. They have often asked for the media to stay out of it, that it's part of the problem, and even that they may be helping to encourage further deaths in the area.

As a statistic, apparently.

We're not saying it's not tragic nor that their deaths only amount to a statistic, to be honest I think it's pretty obvious we're not. We are saying that the media's coverage of the story is incorrect and irresponsible and is done sorely because they can generate interest in their fictitious conspiracy/internet story.

If they were raising awareness of suicide in general then it would have a point, but people are committing suicide everyday and are not getting coverage. Unless you know someone personally, these things always end up as a static.

These deaths are no more tragic than any other young person taking their own life just because it’s caught national coverage.

Originally Posted by Russ B

There's talk in the town that a production company is interested in doing some sort of film about the suicides. It might be some sort of documentary, or a conspiracy-type affair, who knows..

Now, somehow, that doesn't suprise me. Anything for ratings and MONEY!

[Huggles]

I would like to convey to the family and the people of Bridgend my condolences and sorrow for the deaths of so many young people. Unfortunately, the more information that comes out the more it seems that organised stalking has taken a grip of your community.

Similar and documented cases has been recorded by FBI in the US with the most famous case being "Operation Freakout" discovered by the authorities during a raid conducted at the Church of Scientology in 1977. Criminal gangs often use oganised stalking and the associated electronic harassment extensively in the US to attack rivals, drive out business competition and coerce individuals particularly young women into prostitution.
Consequently, the states of Minnesota and Michigan in the US have entered these crimes into their penal codes ( Public Act 2003-0256 / Definitions, Public Act 2003-0257 / Fines and Penalties). Other states have or are following suite.

In the UK, the most recent case reported occurred on our televisions to John Sweeney of the Panorama programme who was a recipient of the rough end of organised stalking, otherwise known as fair game. Freemasons call organised stalking 'the white glove treatment' and they are considered the most active of organised groups in the use of this form of terror to hound individuals. Freemasons use organised stalking for fun; there is an element of team building and discipline within the group in the application of psychological warfare against an individual.

The reasons why individuals are targeted are many and includes revenge, vendettas against whistle blowers, real estate fraud/theft, ritualistic and cult control of members, driving business competition out of town, corporate conflict against environmentalists and finally it could be the actions of a corrupt police and local authorities.

Organised stalking is a carefully applied form of harassment that includes stalking by multiple individuals. It also includes mocking, leering and rude behaviour by multiple individuals directed against the individual repetitively on a daily basis for weeks and months to demoralize. There is overt surveillances and escorting by stalkers even in the remotest areas. In the US stalkers have been observed and filmed by the authorities tracking individuals and communicating with each with in military style sign language and mobile phones often circling and harassing in a predatory manner.

In areas where there are organised stalking networks, it is often easy to observe predatory stalkers. They often take up vantage points on a street, loiter, and from time signal unseen parties further on. When this happens look out for a cowed individual scurrying past, this the target of harassment. Where there are organised stalking networks, there are many lone individuals being hounded.

Most victims of predatory gangstalkers, including myself, strongly believe that these stalkers are involved in paedophilia, prostitution and drugs. Most organised stalking victims have been young women being coerced into prostitution, however with our increasingly liberal society, young men are being forcibly drawn in to this form of exploitation. Older individuals are targeted for money, property, business reasons or just plain revenge. Divorce may also induce this form of revenge if a spouse is connected to these networks or is a Freemason.

The end product of these activities are depression, mental illness and suicide.

[Russ]

I'm sorry I have NO idea what relevance stalking has to what's happening down here, unless you're peddling some kind of agenda?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mick

Perhaps they don't want to admit there is a suicide cult to prevent a wild spread copy cat cult across the UK.

No need to admit it with all the media speculation, perhaps if it weren't given blanket coverage, who knows, still anything to shift a few more copies

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by Russ B

I'm sorry I have NO idea what relevance stalking has to what's happening down here, unless you're peddling some kind of agenda?

I am peddling nothing but the truth. Check out every item of fact I mentioned. Areas where organised stalking induces high suicide rates. This phenomenon is occurring in the US and the authorities are passing the relevant laws. In several occurrences, it was found to be either Scientologists or Freemasons, however, the majority of perpetrators are cults or criminal gangs.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Huggles

I am peddling nothing but the truth. Check out every item of fact I mentioned. Areas where organised stalking induces high suicide rates. This phenomenon is occurring in the US and the authorities are passing the relevant laws. In several occurrences, it was found to be either Scientologists or Freemasons, however, the majority of perpetrators are cults or criminal gangs.

Please keep this thread on topic. There is nothing to suggest the suicides have anything to do with cults or stalking.

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by Russ B

Please keep this thread on topic. There is nothing to suggest the suicides have anything to do with cults or stalking.

Amazing, the authorities are scratching their heads, people are mourning and you dictate what is on or off topic over a horrific mystery. The fact is there are evil people in this country and they commit evil crimes. To discuss their part in tearing a community apart is not off topic. You are. I find it hard to believe that young people commit suicide as a fad, they've had a push in that direction. This kind of thing has happened before and will continue until we all put a stop to it.

Originally Posted by Huggles

Amazing, the authorities are scratching their heads, people are mourning and you dictate what is on or off topic over a horrific mystery. The fact is there are evil people in this country and they commit evil crimes. To discuss their part in tearing a community apart is not off topic. You are. I find it hard to believe that young people commit suicide as a fad, they've had a push in that direction. This kind of thing has happened before and will continue until we all put a stop to it.

Well it might make your case if you provided some links or actual sites and show us where there is a stalker in this case.You could try contacting the Bridgend police directly with your suggestions...but this is really a condolence thread not a conspiracy thread.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Huggles

Amazing, the authorities are scratching their heads, people are mourning and you dictate what is on or off topic over a horrific mystery.

Yes, I'm an Admin on this site, it's my job to decide.

Originally Posted by Huggles

The fact is there are evil people in this country and they commit evil crimes.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Huggles

To discuss their part in tearing a community apart is not off topic.

Yes it is, when there is no suggestion that these 'evil people' are involved.

Originally Posted by Huggles

I find it hard to believe that young people commit suicide as a fad, they've had a push in that direction. This kind of thing has happened before and will continue until we all put a stop to it.

I'm not saying it's a fad.

Let me put you in the picture. I live 15 miles from Bridgend. Not only that, I actually work smack-bang in the centre of Bridgend. I'm ideally-placed to hear about all kinds of rumours and stories about these suicides. And I can assure you 150% that there is nothing to suggest Freemasons, Scientologists or stalking is involved.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Huggles

I find it hard to believe that young people commit suicide as a fad, they've had a push in that direction

I find it slightly worrying (and, I daresay the families involved would find it offensive) that you appear to be using these 17 deaths to further your own agenda.

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

Well it might make your case if you provided some links or actual sites and show us where there is a stalker in this case.You could try contacting the Bridgend police directly with your suggestions...but this is really a condolence thread not a conspiracy thread.

Opps! Sorry. However, my comments are genuine. I and a few others will be writing to Madeleine Moon. Also I will endeavour to contact US survivors groups to look into what has happened in Bridgend and ask them to lend some assistance. I have no confidence in the police from my own organised stalking experience.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Huggles

Opps! Sorry. However, my comments are genuine. I and a few others will be writing to Madeleine Moon. Also I will endeavour to contact US survivors groups to look into what has happened in Bridgend and ask them to lend some assistance. I have no confidence in the police from my own organised stalking experience.

Fair enough.

[Russ]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...313403,00.html

Number 19. My sister used to live in Bettws and I know this will hit the community hard.