Muslim Refuses To Sell Bible Story Book At M&S

[budwieser]

Originally Posted by grabbi

This country is a Christian Country, and if they arent willing to sell the Bible because its "unclean" then that tells me that they are disrespectful of the beliefs of this country, and also the company, whose employees should be addressed on these issues.

Sooner or later, they are going to have to sell something like that, and if they are unwilling, then they shouldnt get the job.

I suppose when in MandS, she doesnt serve customers with Pork or anything... again, something MandS sell, and if they want to work for that company, they should.

She should be fired.

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http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...ean-Bible-book

Theres the full story.

Fact is, what is said in there is correct.

If it was a Christian refusing to sell a Kouran, there would be hell to pay. In fact, that person would have lost their job.

Why should anyone else be any different?

This is England. EVERYONE abides by the same laws and regulations, policies and respects other peoples beliefs.

Why Apply for a job which entails serving Bibles and "unclean" meat? AND THEN the assistant offended her by saying the Bible is Unclean!!!! Thats offensive to our religions, and for that alone, she should be fired on discrimination of the customer.

You are so right.
We are pandering to all the other religions, through the bloody do-gooders and the politically correct that we`ve lost sight of our own status and beliefs in our own country.
Why can`t people get a grip and do as would be done to us if we went to another country? If we break their rules we get punished for it, it is THEIR LAW! If they come to our country and break the law they have their rights because we do not enforce OUR LAW.

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Originally Posted by budwieser

So many people come into this country and try to impose their religious beliefs onto us, Its our country but no-one can seem to see that.! We`re getting worn down by all the immigrants who protest that they can`t practise their beliefs.

Theres a lot of muslims born here to, as there are a lot of converts to islam from this country. isnt tEngland/Scotland/Wales there country too or do they give up that right because they have converted to another religion?

Originally Posted by budwieser

What about some respect for ours, Eh? Nobody gives a **** about the normal, white, hard working family man any more. Paying his taxes on time through PAYE .
All the time the muslims are allowed to demonstrate and have rallies, If we put up a flag of St George, we`re told to take it down............ What the **** is that all about? It`s our country. Lets never forget it.
When will the government start standing up for us?

I bet you find it extremely hard to find any Islamic organisation that has advocated you taking down the St Georges flag.

And it might suprise you but a lot of muslims are also nrmal, white hard working family men.

As for demos and rallies I cant recall that being banned to non muslims in the UK.

[TheNorm]

Originally Posted by grabbi

This country is a Christian Country, ....

And M&S is a Christian shop!!!

Oh, hang on...

Marks, who was born in Slonim, Belarus (then part of Russian Empire and Poland) as Michał Marks of Polish-Lithuanian and Jewish ancestry, emigrated to England as a young man. He moved to Leeds where a company called Barran was known to employ Jewish refugees.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Marks

If only we'd banned Polish/Russian/Lithuanian Jews from setting up successful shops in Britain, there would be no problem, would there!

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by TheNorm

And M&S is a Christian shop!!!

Oh, hang on...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Marks

If only we'd banned Polish/Russian/Lithuanian Jews from setting up successful shops in Britain, there would be no problem, would there!

I was going to bring that up. Is there a rule in islam about other religious texts? I guess I could understand it if it was pork.

[budwieser]

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

Theres a lot of muslims born here to, as there are a lot of converts to islam from this country. isnt tEngland/Scotland/Wales there country too or do they give up that right because they have converted to another religion?



I bet you find it extremely hard to find any Islamic organisation that has advocated you taking down the St Georges flag.

And it might suprise you but a lot of muslims are also nrmal, white hard working family men.

As for demos and rallies I cant recall that being banned to non muslims in the UK.

I`m not having a go mate about Muslims. Lets get that right straight away, i have no problems with any other religious groups worshipping whoever they believe in. My point was that if we the English, wish to put up flags to celebrate a particular day to a saint we wish to praise, our government will not allow us to because we might offend other religions. no offence to any other religion meant or implied, i just feel we don`t have enough say or support from the government in the running of our country.

[Niles Crane]

Some quotes from the customer in the above article;

“I went to the till and heard the girl say it was unclean and then she got someone else to serve me,” said Mrs Friday.

“At first I wasn’t sure what was going on and then I realised she was wearing a headdress and I clicked that the title of the book had Bible in it. I felt very humiliated and immediately left the store.”

So basically, the only thing which has happened here is the customer has merely assumed they were offended by a Bible because they're Muslim. Completely ignoring the importance of the Bible in Islamic faith, naturally.

This is a non-story and the fact that it's made multiple national papers (the usual suspects, of course) really just shows the disturbing level of islamophobia nowadays.

“Had this been a copy of the Koran I am confident any Christian person would be happy to do her job

Yeah, of course.

and for this to happen in a Marks & Spencer of all places beggars belief.

Indeed. Such a supposed prejudice Islamic shop assistant and yet they're working for a reknowned Jewish company. But i guess the Jews and Muslims are as one? I forgot that.

“I am not racist but I have vowed never to let a person wearing a headdress serve me again. It will be a long, long time before I shop again at M&S.”

This person is clearly a xenophobe and a bigot. But i'm sure they're enjoying all the cash and attention they're receiving after crying to the press about how their shopping trip was ruined and life turned upside down by some evil Muslim.

“I find it unbelievable. We are a Christian country. I’m afraid it is no good for people to work in Marks & Spencer and not serve their products.

Said after shopping in a store created by a Jew over 100 years ago.

You can't make this stuff up.

[budwieser]

Originally Posted by Ezenden

Some quotes from the customer in the above article;



So basically, the only thing which has happened here is the customer has merely assumed they were offended by a Bible because they're Muslim.

This is a non-story and the fact that it's made multiple national papers (the usual suspects, of course) really just shows the disturbing level of islamophobia nowadays.



Yeah, of course.



Indeed. Such a supposed prejudice Islamic shop assistant and yet they're working for a reknowned Jewish company. But i guess the Jews and Muslims are as one? I forgot that.



This person is clearly a xenophobe and a bigot. But i'm sure they're enjoying all the cash and attention they're receiving after crying to the press about how their shopping trip was ruined and life turned upside down by some evil Muslim.



Said after shopping in a store created by a Jew over 100 years ago.

You can't make this stuff up.

Is "Islamaphobia" a real word? or just one that you made up mate?
What`s you religion incidentally? Just asking.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Hi Stuart CFT, for once, l totally disagree with you, if l go into a shop, l expect to be served, by the assistant, for what ever reason, shops are there to be 'shopped ' in,.

Actually, if you are referring to what I said about the shop assistant being within her rights to refuse to sell to a customer, from what I have been told (by my manager at Blockbuster amongst others), legallly, the assistant has the right to refuse to sell to a customer. That's not just my opinion.

Your way is true, in an ideal world. However, this world isn't ideal.

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Originally Posted by budwieser

Is "Islamaphobia" a real word?

Apparently: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/islamophobia

[Niles Crane]

Originally Posted by budwieser

Is "Islamaphobia" a real word? or just one that you made up mate?
What`s you religion incidentally? Just asking.

Yes, it's a real, quite commonly used word. Look it up.

My religion is completely irrelevant and for you to ask the question in response to my points speaks volumes about your mentality. But regardless; it's not the one you probably think, and hope it is.

I note that all the differing 'reports' thus far are exactly the same almost word for word.

Let us hope some independent journalist actually does try to delve a little further and get us a few more 'facts'.

[Tezcatlipoca]

Originally Posted by Incognitas

I note that all the differing 'reports' thus far are exactly the same almost word for word.

Let us hope some independent journalist actually does try to delve a little further and get us a few more 'facts'.

Facts? Facts? Why let facts get in the way of some good ol' fashioned anti-Muslim tabloid trash.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Stuart C

If a Muslim woman went into a store, went up to a Christian sales assistant, tried to buy a book telling stories based on The Koran and the assistant refused, would you feel the same way?

If the christian had taken the job on at the time the shop was selling the book with stories based on the koran, yes....they took the job, they shouldn't shirk the duties that go with it...

Oh I give up..I'll be back when the story gets onto the BBC news website.

Byeee.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

Theres a lot of muslims born here to, as there are a lot of converts to islam from this country. isnt tEngland/Scotland/Wales there country too or do they give up that right because they have converted to another religion?

I am British but I was brought up a Latvian and don't feel British in the slightest. If it came to some conflict of cultural/religious beliefs then I would feel obliged and obligated to abide by Britains cultural norms and keep my Latvian beliefs/practices to myself. Certain sections of this countries ethnic mix should learn to grow up, integrate and deal with the realities of not living in their spiritual homeland....

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

I am British but I was brought up a Latvian and don't feel British in the slightest. If it came to some conflict of cultural/religious beliefs then I would feel obliged and obligated to abide by Britains cultural norms and keep my Latvian beliefs/practices to myself. Certain sections of this countries ethnic mix should learn to grow up, integrate and deal with the realities of not living in their spiritual homeland....

Are Latvian beliefs/practices that different from British ones?