Whats wrong with Vista? - Page 2

xpod · 04-11-2007, 18:52

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Whats wrong with Vista?

Nothing whatsover......as long as i dont have to actually install it again.

I cant give any expert valuations but i`ve probably given both Windows & Linux a more equal opportunity than most who have ever tried alternative OS`s.

I had only a few months using Windows(a pc) before discovering Linux last year and although i`ve used Linux exclusively since then i still seem to spend quite a bit of time in other peoples Windows.3 alone this week with an unmountable_boot_volume on one,a ntldr missing or corrupt on another & a winsock problem on the third.
All fixed thankfully but enough to also remind me why i was so darned lucky stumbling across this thing called Ubuntu when i did.

I messed about with Vista for a couple of months and had it on another machine as part of a dualboot...then mutilboot,just to see what might have been.Nothing quite as signature worthy as the machines mentioned of course(1.8Ghz,512Mb).
I just cant see any reasons why i would ever want to use Vista over Ubuntu, although we do have an XP install around.
It`s handy when calling Virgin ts if not much else.

awesometeeth · 05-11-2007, 22:24

hmm I have vista 64 on my media PC and xp on this laptop.

what do i honestly think of vista? well i paid 60 for an OEM version, so i dont have to justify a stupidly large outlay.

I think its ok though. If your have a desktop machine with ok specs, it should run just fine. I have a q6600 and 2gb of ram and it is pretty fast.

I think part of the problem is the reputation it built up in the early days, rightly so. The driver issue, specially for vista64 is still pretty hit and miss. Canon, for example, provide scanner drives for some of their scanners, but not all for 64bit! So luckily I have this laptop to scan or 70 quid would be useless...

I think it was released with far too many bugs and driver issues and maybe also a little over the average spec a year ago. I think it will probably get a better reputation over some time though as driver issues become non existent and computer specs increase for the same relative price. I would, however, never ever put it on a laptop as currently (and for the foreseeable) there is just no point.

I find it more like XP+ with its graphical overlay and small changes. I dont think its worth upgrading for, but if you need to get an OEM copy, vista would be the one I would chose

cimt · 06-11-2007, 00:34

It all works fine for me, I've had no problems yet and I've only used it on a cheapish laptop which is for my birthday. This is the specs so for it and all I've noticed is that it needs a memory upgrade.

Knobbly · 06-11-2007, 08:54

I've got Vista Ultimate 64 running on one machine, it's fantastic, had never crashed, don't have any driver issues and I've yet to find anything that won't run.

I've got Vista Business on my work machine which get's hammered all day, every day and that's solid too and much easier to work with than XP

I've also got Vista HP on a seriously crappy laptop (Athlon XP, 1.8ghz, 512mb ram) and it's more useable than the XP Pro it replaced.

I don't think luck comes into it either, most of the problems with Vista are caused by third party drivers, which to be fair, are the hardware manufacturers fault, not Vistas/Microsofts.

Stuart · 06-11-2007, 09:07

My experiences of vista? Generally good. I've run it on various machines (I am part of a group evaluating it at work) ranging from 2Ghz p4s up to 3.6 Ghz P4s, and various Core based machines. The only machine it has issues with is my machine at home, but as far as I can work out, that is due to a combination of my graphics card (Geforce 8800GT) and monitor (Viewsonic vx2025wm). Basically, the issue is that with any version of the Nvidia drivers > 100, the Graphics card won't output via DVI to that monitor (it outputs to my 17inch Samsung LCD fine though, and will work with the Viewsonic via VGA).

Unlike Ubuntu, which won't even start on my core 2 at home.

Stuart · 06-11-2007, 12:15

Moved to General IT forum.

The Hitman · 06-11-2007, 13:38

I have a strange problem with vista .After a while I can't use dvd shrink any more it just locks the pc up. HD ligh comes on all the time. Even if I uninstall it reinstall it. Do a system restore it just won't work. There is one way to get it to work again and thats to do a Shark hard format.

Mauldor · 06-11-2007, 15:55

Its is not so much Vista does not work but when you compare to the previous O/S, then you start to see how it does not live up to the expectations. If you take away the eye candy which most businesses would not use, the hardware requirement is higher in all cases then the current PC's hanging about most companies.

Copying from one Medium to another (DVD to HD, HD-> HD etc ) is much slower for some reason then either XP or Linux. Copying across the Network again is very slow by a big factor - both of these will be addressed in SP1 so they say.

The UAC is annoying and I cannot understand why it has to Darken the screen on order to pop up a box to ask the question - this alone will not stop people running things they maybe should not have, as they will just click OK anyhow.

nicke261192 · 06-11-2007, 17:49

I Love Vista! Its Sound!

ZrByte · 06-11-2007, 20:45

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

My experiences of vista? Generally good. I've run it on various machines (I am part of a group evaluating it at work) ranging from 2Ghz p4s up to 3.6 Ghz P4s, and various Core based machines. The only machine it has issues with is my machine at home, but as far as I can work out, that is due to a combination of my graphics card (Geforce 8800GT) and monitor (Viewsonic vx2025wm). Basically, the issue is that with any version of the Nvidia drivers > 100, the Graphics card won't output via DVI to that monitor (it outputs to my 17inch Samsung LCD fine though, and will work with the Viewsonic via VGA).

Unlike Ubuntu, which won't even start on my core 2 at home.

I know its OT but Just out of interest why wont your ubuntu start on your core 2? Im having some wierd SATA issue and I cant get it going on mine, was just wondering if your having the same problem.

Stuart · 08-11-2007, 11:48

I suspect it's that same thing. Only have one PATA port on my system, so all the HDDs are SATA. Spent three hours on it on Tuesday.

ZrByte · 08-11-2007, 13:52

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

I suspect it's that same thing. Only have one PATA port on my system, so all the HDDs are SATA. Spent three hours on it on Tuesday.

Are you using a p965 intel board? and/or a SATA DVDROM?

slowcoach · 08-11-2007, 15:25

Slowcoach shakes head and wonders?

Skatoony · 11-11-2007, 11:49

Reasons I don't like Vista:

- DirectSound was removed, which means Creative are being their usual money-hungry sods and charging Audigy users for Alchemy that fails to work even with Half-Life 1.

- MIDI support was practically torn out. There's absolutely no control panel to control even the MIDI output. Luckily someone has brought out a program that edits the registry, so this isn't a big case any more.

- Drivers. nVidia, as far as I am aware, still haven't fixed their Vista driver. This is hate towards nVidia because there's a thread with over 100 pages that goes on about the driver constantly crashing 3D apps (even Aero!) and then Vista having to restart it (the usual "The driver (nvidia's driver here) stopped responding and has been restarted".

They're the reasons I don't like Vista and why I'm still on XP x64

TheBlueRaja · 11-11-2007, 13:42

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Originally Posted by Skatoony

Reasons I don't like Vista:

- DirectSound was removed, which means Creative are being their usual money-hungry sods and charging Audigy users for Alchemy that fails to work even with Half-Life 1.

- MIDI support was practically torn out. There's absolutely no control panel to control even the MIDI output. Luckily someone has brought out a program that edits the registry, so this isn't a big case any more.

- Drivers. nVidia, as far as I am aware, still haven't fixed their Vista driver. This is hate towards nVidia because there's a thread with over 100 pages that goes on about the driver constantly crashing 3D apps (even Aero!) and then Vista having to restart it (the usual "The driver (nvidia's driver here) stopped responding and has been restarted".

They're the reasons I don't like Vista and why I'm still on XP x64

So your gripes are mostly to do with 3rd party providers and not Microsoft?