Fears over Taser gun expansion

[Derek]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Do you all get a turn at being tasered or is it strictly reserved for the bosses, could act as an incentive for them as well, don't give them Knighthoods for cutting crime, just don't taser them anymore

Cops certainly get CS'd or PAVA'd during training. Not sure about Taser whether they use it without the barbs or just watch the videos.

[Cobbydaler]

Originally Posted by TheNorm

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/200709...fa6b408_2.html

The police seem to be assessing this device in a very measured way, which is to be congratulated.

I can only imagine what is must be like to be confronted by a drug-crazed violent yob at the end of a long tiring shift on a Saturday night. A zap with 50,000 volts must be more effective than a thump with a truncheon!

Seems to have been a bit too effective in this case...

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

Seems to have been a bit too effective in this case...

Not as simple as the headline makes out (imho).

From the article -
"When officers arrived at the house at about 1900 GMT on Saturday they were confronted by the armed man, police said.
He was then shot with the police Taser gun.
"The man went into the house where he inflicted a more serious injury on himself," said Bedfordshire Police.
"When officers found him, he was in urgent need of medical attention." He was taken to Bedford South Hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

If the Tazer guns are effective at stopping drug crazed Neanderthals they should be issued to all police officers in the UK.

[punky]

Tazers are effective at stopping anyone who conducts electricty. Maybe if the clothes are thick enough the barbs won't penetrate.

Originally Posted by Gavin

Tazers are effective at stopping anyone who conducts electricty. Maybe if the clothes are thick enough the barbs won't penetrate.

I think they do, I was watching something on the TV not so long ago and they were testing the new guns, one copper had several layers of clothing on and the pins managed to get through and give him a jolt.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

This really gets my goat, that people bring in there Human Rights crap, and how powerful these taser guns are, what we have in this country, is the laws are far too soft, if police officers are forced to face a lot of yobbos, who are terrosing someone, then they should be able to use any force nessersary, wether it is a taser, or water cannon(although not in this country) or batons, dogs, or horses, then they should use, human rights, to me they have thrown that out of the window, they commit a crime, thats it, they don't have any HR, we already have a system, where some do gooder will come along and say, they might have committed a crime, but they still have rights, absolute tosh.

[punky]

Originally Posted by Nidge

I think they do, I was watching something on the TV not so long ago and they were testing the new guns, one copper had several layers of clothing on and the pins managed to get through and give him a jolt.

Looking here The barbs are probably 1/2" long, but contacts extend for another couple of inches. If its fabric, it should cut through as its sharp. It would depend on if they are wearing are armour or the cop is unlucky and hits the guy's wallet in his inside chest jacket pocket.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

This really gets my goat, that people bring in there Human Rights crap, and how powerful these taser guns are, what we have in this country, is the laws are far too soft, if police officers are forced to face a lot of yobbos, who are terrosing someone, then they should be able to use any force nessersary, wether it is a taser, or water cannon(although not in this country) or batons, dogs, or horses, then they should use, human rights, to me they have thrown that out of the window, they commit a crime, thats it, they don't have any HR, we already have a system, where some do gooder will come along and say, they might have committed a crime, but they still have rights, absolute tosh.

here in lincolnshire the police dont use any of that paraphernalia, good god man havent you heard of the crime number,once issued all crime instantly stops, no need for fancy gadgets.

[Derek]

And almost 2 years later there is another shocking (sorry) proposal

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/h...guns-1.1001189

A Scottish police force is considering issuing beat officers with taser stun guns after thousands were assaulted in the line of duty.

Long overdue IMHO, hopefully this will happen fairly quickly and the local pondlife will get the message that having a pop at the Police isn't a clever thing to do.

[Derek]

Any animal lovers can sleep easy knowing that fluffy the sheep will be safe if it decides to take some crystal meth and get tasered.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04...p_zap_shocker/

In shock* news it has emerged that a group of sheep in America, out of their minds on Class A drugs, have been repeatedly blasted using controversial electric Taser stun weapons.

I wonder if it made their wool stand on end?

[Spectato]

Link to the original Reuters article here:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKL0...070901?sp=true


( Yahoo link in OP has used up its bandwidth allocation )

[TheNorm]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

This really gets my goat, ....

Close; not caprine, but ovine...

Originally Posted by Derek S

Any animal lovers can sleep easy knowing that fluffy the sheep will be safe ...

Originally Posted by Spectato

...( Yahoo link in OP has used up its bandwidth allocation )

Thanks for that. Didn't I read somewhere that there is a repositry of all web pages? A sort of British Library of the web?

[Cobbydaler]

Ouch...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-10701733

Originally Posted by The BBC

Missed genitals
At this point it discharged, hitting his groin and ankle but narrowly missing his genitals.
Mr Cox fell to the ground in pain and had to be treated by paramedics.
"As soon as it was done, [the officer] came running up to me apologising and said it was an accidental discharge," said Mr Cox.

Ouch.....

(I hope he's told the DVLA and his Insurance Company he's got Guillain Barre syndrome, because if not, they know now....)