how about we start a campaign to let VM know that we DONT LIKE SHAPING

[rockabillybass]

Originally Posted by pmdelany

4) The cap limits are too small but also done over too short of a timescale, almost everyone will at some point want to download something large which will put them over the limit for the evening, it would be better for example if it only applied if your weekly average was over the limit.

I'm on 4 meg. So downloading one Linux CD ISO would use up almost all my allowance. Seems a bit harsh to me..

[helmutcheese]

The 10meg was ok at first but has been crap for many for 6-8 months due to oversubsription (In my area anyhow), some say the 20meg drops to 5meg not 10meg, I aint sure as I aint went over limit yet.

[supercyber]

Originally Posted by rockabillybass

I'm on 4 meg. So downloading one Linux CD ISO would use up almost all my allowance. Seems a bit harsh to me..

yea true.

it seems virgin are still working with thier 512k service way back 5 years ago lol.

complain to ispa.

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Originally Posted by helmutcheese

The 10meg was ok at first but has been crap for many for 6-8 months due to oversubsription (In my area anyhow), some say the 20meg drops to 5meg not 10meg, I aint sure as I aint went over limit yet.

yes ur right they drop the 20mb to 5mb, if u go over the limit, talk about limited service lol.

[Dawn Falcon]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

explain please how adsl seems a better choice.

Because there are companies which dosn't add 200ms to your ping when you download a 4Mb file in peak time.

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

Traffic shaping = best possible chance for all to get a good stable connection

No, that'd be creating a network with a reasonable amount of network bandwidth, and not overselling (If that means you have to offer a slower service, SO BE IT!). Oh, and kicking the 24/7 download abusers off. This is a viable alternative, afaik. I'm sure you won't like it...but it is an alternative.

The "reach for speed" in British broadband, when you cannot then use that speed, is self-destructive to the industry. Certain press from VM criticising caps on other services, when they restrict their own network in other ways, are also downright wrong as far as I'm concerned and I've complained about them as misleading.

[Locky]

Originally Posted by Dawn Falcon

Because there are companies which dosn't add 200ms to your ping when you download a 4Mb file in peak time.



No, that'd be creating a network with a reasonable amount of network bandwidth, and not overselling (If that means you have to offer a slower service, SO BE IT!). Oh, and kicking the 24/7 download abusers off. This is a viable alternative, afaik. I'm sure you won't like it...but it is an alternative.

The "reach for speed" in British broadband, when you cannot then use that speed, is self-destructive to the industry. Certain press from VM criticising caps on other services, when they restrict their own network in other ways, are also downright wrong as far as I'm concerned and I've complained about them as misleading.

agree with the bit about network bandwidth