Xbox 360 Elite: HDMI-enabled black unit with 120GB HDD in late April - Page 6

Tezcatlipoca · 29-03-2007, 00:14

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Originally Posted by DarthYoda

Well its now official.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/x...te/default.htm

So is the bigger hard drive to buy seperately

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/x...GB/default.htm

Hmm.

Not a limited edition, then...so it won't be turning white & replacing the Premium...

Pricey....

Data transfer cable

But only any use if you keep your HDD. Seeing as most existing 360 owners who plan on getting an Elite would surely be trading their old console in, that cable won't be very helpful for them.

OK if you're just buying the HDD on its own though.

HDMI -

but not really needed at all, apart from so MS can say "So what if the PS3 has HDMI, so does the 360".

120GB HDD -

not really needed at all in the UK yet, seeing as the UK's XBLMarketplace is complete & utter crap compared to the US one, and if/when IPTV comes out over here I bet that sucks too. But it's also another response to Sony.

No built-in WiFi

- Come on, MS. You obviously did this because of the PS3, so why no built-in WiFi. Hell, even the "cheap & cheerful" console option - the Wii - has WiFi!!!!

No 65nm

- Pity. I assume that all the versions (Core, Premium, & Elite) will "go 65nm" later in the year. Be nice to know when...

I'll get one, though, now my launch 360 has gone off to be repaired. Trade-in for an Elite once they're out...

Uncle Peter · 29-03-2007, 15:29

Fully agree with you there Matt

Seems like a deliberately well timed publicity stunt to me. I suppose the talk of it being "limited edition" is based on the possibility that the Elite SKU will be canned as soon as the new Xenon goes into production.

Sorting the heat and power issues out is surely more important than adding features which are of limited use in the near term.

Tezcatlipoca · 31-03-2007, 23:22

I wonder when they're gonna announce a UK/Europe price & date......

I may hang on longer, & wait for them to switch to 65nm.........

Heat & power issues definitely more important than gimmicks, like you say.

Oh, for a reliable 360........

On a side note, thinking ahead to the Elite release, I popped into GAME & Gamestation today, to check what (store credit) trade-in price they currently give for a Premium 360.... ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£180. Of course, that'll drop if the Premium retail price goes down with the release of the Elite.

icestar2 · 01-04-2007, 18:07

I think its unfair to the people who spent money on the origonal release who dont have a HDMI port. Does any1 know if there will be any kind of adapter for HDMI for the origonal 360 ?

Tezcatlipoca · 01-04-2007, 19:43

HDMI is fairly unnecessary, though, for most people.

Component can be used for anything up to 1080p for games, 1080i for HD DVDs, & normal SD Progressive Scan for DVDs.

VGA can be used for anything up to 1080p for both games and HD DVDs, and lets the 360 upscale DVDs up to 1080p.

Some 1080p TVs will only take 1080p over HDMI. So if you have one of those, then you need HDMI for 1080p.

If you have a 720p or 1080i TV, then it doesn't really matter.

HDMI is also necessary for Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio. But, if you don't have an amp/receiver capable of those anyway, then it's again a bit pointless.

The original 360 will not be getting an HDMI cable..... its video output is analogue only apparently. The Elite has an actual separate HDMI output, next to the normal proprietary AV output.

SnoopZ · 03-04-2007, 16:20

This makes a good read about the Elite. http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-ente...llo-247635.php

Uncle Peter · 03-04-2007, 16:33

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Originally Posted by Matt D

HDMI is fairly unnecessary, though, for most people.

Component can be used for anything up to 1080p for games, 1080i for HD DVDs, & normal SD Progressive Scan for DVDs.

VGA can be used for anything up to 1080p for both games and HD DVDs, and lets the 360 upscale DVDs up to 1080p.

Some 1080p TVs will only take 1080p over HDMI. So if you have one of those, then you need HDMI for 1080p.

If you have a 720p or 1080i TV, then it doesn't really matter.

HDMI is also necessary for Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio. But, if you don't have an amp/receiver capable of those anyway, then it's again a bit pointless.

The original 360 will not be getting an HDMI cable..... its video output is analogue only apparently. The Elite has an actual separate HDMI output, next to the normal proprietary AV output.

Yes the ANA scaler chip in the original 360 does not handle digital. Microsoft have designed a new digital capable scaler for the Elite.

EDIT: But I suppose at least it's got a hardware scaler

(sorry couldn't resist)

Paranoimia · 04-04-2007, 21:07

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Originally Posted by Uncle Peter

I take it you haven't played many then.

Played all the ones my mate has bought for his. Only GoW really grabbed me, though. That is quite a stunning game.

Got my PS3 now, and am sure I made the right choice for me. Especially after the grief I had with my original Xbox.

My mate's enjoying his 360, and at least it hasn't failed on him yet. So we're both happy!

SnoopZ · 04-04-2007, 21:42

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Originally Posted by Paranoimia

Played all the ones my mate has bought for his. Only GoW really grabbed me, though. That is quite a stunning game.

Got my PS3 now, and am sure I made the right choice for me. Especially after the grief I had with my original Xbox.

My mate's enjoying his 360, and at least it hasn't failed on him yet. So we're both happy!

I'm perfectly happy with my Xbox 360 and don't see a reason to shell out for the Elite. I know i made the right choice as the PS3 is nothing like what it was made out to be in the beginning.

I'd miss the dual shock if i bought a PS3 but rumours are Sony might bring that feature back. And the fact that the textures are lower quality(something to do with not enough video memory) than on the 360 would bother me. And i think the Xbox 360 controller is way better than the current PS3 one.

I'm not saying i'd never buy a PS3 but at the moment it's very unlikely considering how good the Xbox is.

[edit]

Sorry for taking this thread off topic.

Tezcatlipoca · 14-04-2007, 18:09

No Elite for Europe 'till November?

http://www.360-gamer.com/news.asp?id=755

Alanmelon · 14-04-2007, 19:43

Nothing particularly interesting but some nice pics;

http://www.digitalbattle.com/2007/03...factory-shots/

Uncle Peter · 15-04-2007, 21:52

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Originally Posted by Matt D

No Elite for Europe 'till November?

http://www.360-gamer.com/news.asp?id=755

Looks like they're going to quietly sneak 65nm in perhaps... hopefully in the PAL version if the chips are in production.

Tezcatlipoca · 15-04-2007, 22:06

Hopefully, otherwise why the delay?

It would also be nice if they improved (*greatly* improved) the UK Video marketplace... otherwise the extra space of the Elite's 120GB HDD is kind of pointless.

SnoopZ · 20-04-2007, 19:37

You can see inside the new Elite from the below link. Whether it has a 65nm core remains to be seen, but the motherboard layout is different.

http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/news/i..._360_elite.htm

SnoopZ · 30-04-2007, 16:12

Looks like MS still haven't fixed the problems that the original Xbox 360 had.

http://loot-ninja.com/2007/04/29/xbo...ems-as-others/