20 Meg From June

[Downloads]

Originally Posted by Zee

Be & UK Online, with Be i'm close enough to get 20Mb, friend on my street gets it and pays £24.

So switch?

[popper]

Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

yes correct it's a limitation of the technology. it's a lot more costly to give you more upstream.

ohh come on carm.., you know full well the docsis1.1 can do 1.3mbit upload easy enough, you might have a point about the cost after its gone outside the VM UK network... but even then thats a copout as eveyone else manages that cost today just fine....

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Originally Posted by Incognitas

Why?Who else gives 20MB at a cheaper price?

noone gives 20 MegaByte (MB) at a cheaper price, you ment Megabit OC,
however MANY others DO give 768kbit and way above that, at a FAR better prices, swings and roundabouts i guess, true cable is more stable over the longer term.

its interesting that the WASP (wireless ISP's) give far better 1.4Mbit/s uploads at better cost too, however not everyone can get access to these as yet.

[AndyIggs83]

Originally Posted by Downloads

So switch?

I agree

Vote with your wallets!

[popper]

Originally Posted by Downloads

So switch?

but how does that encourage your prefered supplyer to change their ways and give you the end user what you want to pay for in the long term?.....

the fact is if you turn the arguments around and replace the download rates with the upload rates then it becomes clear that while VM can slaughter any comers (the antiquated DOCSIS 1.1 can do a hell of a lot more see the uncapped upload rate reports around here for instance) but choose not too, why is that?.....

its interesting that they dont even try and use the vast upload PR advantage and that at least would be a very clear and real advantage but for the cost of carrage after the VM core network, but then they are now the international core member of the global club (i forget the award right now) and are able to sub-let their VM core or dark fiber to 3rd partys and so undercut the likes of BT for carrage if they wanted to , after all if you have the uk's core traffic coming over one or two of your cable routes then its simple maths to add in your VM traffic on to others cores in return for mass discounts.

[salem]

How will the older modems cope with 20 Meg? i've got a silver home 120, is this up to the job?

S

[DieDieMyDarling]

I reckon the now 2mb service will be rebranded to S (small), 4mb M (medium), 20mb L (Large) and 50mb XL (Extra Large), once they roll out 50mb. So i very much doubt 2mb users will be upgraded.
My main concern about this upgrade is the modems, as mentioned in the post above, i have the Ambit 120 too, and it struggles with 10mb, i'm pretty sure it won't handle 20mb!

From this forum i've noticed that there's still a lot of customers on this modem, and the other older ones that begin with T (sorry can't remember the name).
If only they'd just post out modems to the customer, rather than faffing about with needing an engineer, it's gonna cost them a fortune in man hours if they have to send out an engineer to every single house on 10mb that needs a new modem, not to mention all the people who will upgrade to 20mb for a month just for the sake of it, who also have old modems.

[Vegeta]

The 4mbit service should be replaced by the 10mbit service so 10mbit for £25!

[tucker61]

How does this affect customers with the VIP Package, do they get the increas or do they have to pay £87.00 ?

Originally Posted by Zee

Can't believe they are going to increase the price to £37, its expensive as it is... rip off

Stop moaning and move to someone else then (and leave more room for the rest of us who are more than happy to pay it).

JFYI, I can't even get 1/2 that speed from anyone else around here.

[Welshie]

Same here. Was one of the reasons I went cable.

At more than 2 miles (not that far really!) from the exchange ADSL becomes more and more inferior.

Have to say though that with the 20mbit upgrade, it is a real shame they're not increasing the upload beyond 768kbit - I thought 20:1 was a crap down/up ratio!!!!!

[Zee]

Originally Posted by Paul M

Stop moaning and move to someone else then (and leave more room for the rest of us who are more than happy to pay it).

JFYI, I can't even get 1/2 that speed from anyone else around here.

I have 10Mb, i signed up for 10Mb for £35 not 20Mb for £37 - what was the point in reducing the price if they were going to just going to increase it again.

You are being used as a sheep, they are trying to rake in as much money as possible from people who will follow.

This country will never get a good deal on broadband like other countires in the world if people continue to support these high prices.

Be is going in the right step, but it still isn't good enough, and i will continue to moan, this is the only way they will listen.

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Originally Posted by Downloads

So switch?

Wish it was that easy, i switched phoneline from ntl to BT, they wouldn't leave me alone, i got over 7 calls from them offering different offers, call after call i told them i was not interested, they dont get the message.

[Hom3r]

I'll be very hapy to pay £37 for 20Mb, but the question is will it still cost £37 for the 50Mb+

[Zee]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

I'll be very hapy to pay £37 for 20Mb, but the question is will it still cost £37 for the 50Mb+

I don't think it will.

They will have a major uper hand against other ISPs and will take full advantage of it by charging rip off prices and people will think "WOW £500 for 50Mb AWESOME!!!!1 IM GONNA GET THAT"

[janipewter]

Exactly. Remember when 4Mb was launched - at £50 and a shedload of people still signed up for it.

[Emperor Ming]

let he war of words begin again. ........press and media gurus from both sides are earning their cheques this month !!!!


http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/3...gin-media.html


Ming