20 Meg From June - Page 8

Downloads · 02-03-2007, 14:18

Anyway, back on the topic of Virgin's 20 Meg. (there are other sections to talk about other services ADSL aren't there?)

I agree with Zingle, there will be a big temptation to downgrade to 10 if all three tiers get upped. But i usually end up taking the top tier just because i can! More money than sense i know! Main reason to keep the 20 is to keep the wife happy i think, she doesn't like waiting for downloads!

Almost getting to the point where you can download a file (compressed at about 800mb) without much of a wait at all. With 20 i could prolly make a cup of tea and come back and it would be there.

With such a speed wouldn't it be a good time to do a pucker download service? (unless they are going to and i am slow on the uptake)

The Jackal · 02-03-2007, 14:34

Well considering that to download a blu-ray disc you're looking at needing at least 20gig of disk space then there might still be takers for the 20mbit service.

Personally I think that 4meg currently is a good median but as I said from my first post ever on these forums until now -

" Better latent networks first " : " Speed second "

DarkGashX · 02-03-2007, 14:46

You have to think around the line of "what" people will use it for.

Sure, people may want it for downloading illegal content but 20Mb will allow people to do a lot more at the same time. For instance:

A family has 3 PCs. PC 1 is having a voice chat and playing an online game while downloading a game demo. PC 2 could be having a video chat and checking emails and PC 3 could be full out downloading from 3 or 4 places. Not one PC will be "unable" to do a certain task because they do not have enough bandwidth so video, voice and gaming will be unaffected.

Families are getting more and more internet enable devices all the time from PCs/Macs to Games Consoles and PDAs.

The Jackal · 02-03-2007, 15:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkGashX

You have to think around the line of "what" people will use it for.

Sure, people may want it for downloading illegal content but 20Mb will allow people to do a lot more at the same time. For instance:

A family has 3 PCs. PC 1 is having a voice chat and playing an online game while downloading a game demo. PC 2 could be having a video chat and checking emails and PC 3 could be full out downloading from 3 or 4 places. Not one PC will be "unable" to do a certain task because they do not have enough bandwidth so video, voice and gaming will be unaffected.

Families are getting more and more internet enable devices all the time from PCs/Macs to Games Consoles and PDAs.

WRONG

If I had a big red marker I would cross out the post too.

What makes you think an upgrade in your download speed will have a beneficial impact to the way an Internet route is delivered to the rest of your PCs ?

Update the upstream and latency then maybe you'll get a better share of bandwidth between your machines.

If I were to come over to your home network and utilize you upstream the effect would be the same on all your machines : REALLY RUBBISH BROADBAND.
The effect would be the same no matter what speed your service is 10meg 20meg 50meg whatever.

FAO Virgin : Better lattency and upstream please

brundles · 02-03-2007, 15:20

He's right there DGX. Using those examples you have, without good latency everyone in the house will be cheesed of apart from the downloader.

Having regular half second gaps in the stream that still maintains the speed because everything comes in the other half second is really really annoying when you're doing something that is realtime focussed - e.g. gaming and voice comms.

DarkGashX · 02-03-2007, 15:25

Actually yep (oops). I forgot about the upstream bit that virgin don't (yet) offer. GRR. I guess that is what I get for living in my dream world :P. No need to be so harsh on it though? A?

Plus a decent router would be needed to distribute the traffic like the ones that offer priority features.

The Jackal · 02-03-2007, 15:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkGashX

No need to be so harsh on it though?

True dont worry about me its not personal just the way I write. (Like a complete pratt on these forums

DarkGashX · 02-03-2007, 15:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrC-3rr0r

True dont worry about me its not personal just the way I write. (Like a complete pratt on these forums

ALRIGHTY THEN :p

We do need better upstream though.

janipewter · 02-03-2007, 15:59

20Mb sounds good but I'd like them to sort out my 10Mb first.

Steve-o||[^] · 04-03-2007, 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrC-3rr0r

FAO Virgin : Better lattency and upstream please

seconds that! It seems that, like most - if not all - BB providers, ephasis is on downstream

MORE UPSTREAM PLEASE!!

in all honesty, I would be very, very happy if i had 10Mbit down and 1 - maybe 2 - Mbit up (that is, ofc if i actually got a reasonably close speed to 10Mbit down)...and maybe slightly better routing

TECHMAN2000 · 04-03-2007, 16:57

Hi all,

I agree with Steve,I prefer more upload that download and also static ip

TECHMAN

DieDieMyDarling · 04-03-2007, 18:33

They won't give much more upstream though, the network can't handle the speeds we have now, this 20mb speed will be used in the PR war, most people won't be able to get it and the 'up to' will be thrown about.

Chrysalis · 06-03-2007, 10:22

someone at virgin is misinformed or they have deliberatly lied.

The statement includes them saying 10meg is available in all areas. Not correct.

It is somewhat more evidence that they may pull the plug on there analogue areas eventually.

Motorman · 06-03-2007, 21:42

Its definately 20mb rolling out from 1st May.
wil be ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£37 full price, but should be available with dual or triple discounts.

spankysmagicpian · 06-03-2007, 23:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motorman

Its definately 20mb rolling out from 1st May.
wil be ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£37 full price, but should be available with dual or triple discounts.

???? Does this mean our current 10Mb maybecome 20Mb or do you think we will have to pay ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£2 extra?