might give Linux OS 2007 a go

[The Jackal]

LOL just made a visit to the forum and found this mess.... COME ON GUYS you should know me by now.... I don't write anything that is meant to be SERIOUSLY directed at someone. I only tease and if you cant take a simple tease Zing then grow up mate.

For what its worth I AM NOT A LINUX DIE HARD - I do have to use it in conjunction with linux and not only that I have experienced some ACE windows setups albeit at some of the banks that I have consulted at and in such an environment you learn to use and love windows (the big take home has something to do with it) as linux/other os's are not allowed.

[philip.j.fry]

Originally Posted by Jon T

Maybe in a few years Linux will mature(as Win 3.11) did, into a "pickup and use" OS, but at the moment it is nowhere near that point.

The problem is, 'pickup and use' to whom? I've been using solely Linux distributions (currently Frugalware) at home for the past 5 years, one of the reasons being that I prefer the more technical involvement in the system than Windows can give. I'd hate to see Linux distros becoming more like Windows clones as it would probably lose a lot of the features that I like and negate my reasons for switching from Windows in the first place.

[Jon T]

Originally Posted by philip.j.fry

The problem is, 'pickup and use' to whom? I've been using solely Linux distributions (currently Frugalware) at home for the past 5 years, one of the reasons being that I prefer the more technical involvement in the system than Windows can give. I'd hate to see Linux distros becoming more like Windows clones as it would probably lose a lot of the features that I like and negate my reasons for switching from Windows in the first place.

If it fails to become a "pickup and use" product to the home user, then it's just never going to get any appreciable foot hold in the home workstation market.

Like I said, I do usee Linux, IPCOP and FreeNAS, also have use SME-Server(e-smith) and Smoothwall in the past as well, i'm not scared of getting my hands dirty with scripts and stuff, but many people are.

I support people at work who struggle with Windows XP, even when they've been shown the same thing every day for a year, it's not that they can't learn what they are being told, is more that they don't think they need to learn, that's 75% of the reason I have a job. Now if they can't(or won't) learn Windows, then what chance have you got with Linux?

Originally Posted by CrC-3rr0r

LOL just made a visit to the forum and found this mess.... COME ON GUYS you should know me by now.... I don't write anything that is meant to be SERIOUSLY directed at someone. I only tease and if you cant take a simple tease Zing then grow up mate.

For what its worth I AM NOT A LINUX DIE HARD - I do have to use it in conjunction with linux and not only that I have experienced some ACE windows setups albeit at some of the banks that I have consulted at and in such an environment you learn to use and love windows (the big take home has something to do with it) as linux/other os's are not allowed.

I can take teasing and I can handle debate what i cant handle are some of the terms you have used in said debate to score points off my back.

I quote you in reference to me "Awwwwwwwwwww leave him alone let him keep searching for his Holy Grail machine the one he keeps raving about - That Windows x64 that he found really smooth and fluid.

Don't worry we have it already (Unfortunately it runs linux)"

I asked you not to talk to me like that and you come back with " again

Come on Zing if you don't know what your talking about then don't get upset and have a go at us.

Wikipedia blu-ray, hd dvd for a start, take a look at the basics of h.264 and move up from there.

The content I got is not available on the web but you know where to get it from

For the equivalent test just try playing a blu-ray disk and letting us know if you can get to 1080(i/p) and what you cpu utilization is like."

than after some debate you post "Maybe we should just open a " Zinglebarb The Linux Guru " thread and help him get upto speed with linux.

I am sure he's got a spare machine which he can use whilst we run him through an install from scratch and configure all his hardware for him.
Hows that for commitment ?"

But ive made it clear I do not have the time or inclination for such a subject

The in response to Popper you say "Its falling on deaf ears popper "
well its not like ive not tried it my opinion isnt based on ignorance its based on my experience and by business model etc

The later you post "I am listening to you mate

" You said you dont care you dont wanna know : Learning Linux is not gonna put bread on the table blah blah blah "

But we're the Linux Jehovah's witnesses and we believe theres a wrong way and OUR way."
The you post this I know the end is a joke but the reference to me is just untrue as I have tried linux and because of the configuration issues and whats in my opinion a totally un userfriendly installation system etc that its not for me and I posted in this thread because the OP has asked a lot of question about other subjects and I knew it wouldnt be for him and this was the case.

Then later you post "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjKbnk-Vh2I

LOL This guy almost hates linux as much as Zing !

I was in stitches watching this guy struggling to set up wireless on ubuntu but hell at least he's trying."
may I reiterate the fact that I have tried thank you very much.

So as I have said I have no problem with debate what I do have a problem with is how it has appeared to me that you have talked down to me treated me like a noob well with linux I am but I know my subject and I am by no means a noob
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You wont see me offering advice about using linux but you will see me offer advice to those who I feel might be biting off more than they can chew

oh and CrC who wants to grow up being an adult sucks

[philip.j.fry]

Originally Posted by Jon T

Now if they can't(or won't) learn Windows, then what chance have you got with Linux?

I'm not sure I need a chance Like I said, I'm happy with the way things are at the moment and have no interest in getting people to change OS' because what's good for them isn't necessarily good for me My main concerns are with keeping to open standards so that choice of OS becomes less of an issue.

[Jon T]

Originally Posted by philip.j.fry

Like I said, I'm happy with the way things are at the moment and have no interest in getting people to change OS' because what's good for them isn't necessarily good for me

I agree.

I like your point, basically "each to their own". I don't mind anybody's actions or beliefs as long as they don't try and inflict them on me(which I know your not trying to do )

Basically I will run Linux for what I want to run Linux for, and Windows for what I need WIndows for. Nothing to do with anyone else.