Multiple HDD enclosure question

pooper · 24-02-2007, 11:54

I've got 4x 400GB drives which im constantly having to swap in and out of my PC (i only plug them in when/if required, to reduce unnecessary 'wear and tear'. I've been using some swappable bays/caddies, but i've had 2 die on me now, so i'm now looking to get something like this enclosure

They're totally separate disks and that's the way it's staying, in NO WAY do i want any kind of RAID setup!

Sooooooooo i just have 2 questions really:

1) Does anyone know WHERE i can actually buy the above product

2) Does anyone know of some good alternative brands? (Icy-box, Raidsonic, Stardom all seem to be the same OEM from what i can see... all of their sites are virtually identical, and the ONLY reseller they list, doesn't have an online store) :/

It's either that, or i buy 4x separate enclosures like [url=http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=543134]this one[/b]

Ohh and one last thing, all my drives are 3.5" PATA ones... so no SATA enclosures please

Paul K · 24-02-2007, 11:59

Not quite uk but:
http://tweakers.net/pwlev.dsp?leverancier_id=5226

pooper · 24-02-2007, 12:33

Hmmmm, don't 'really' wanna order from abroad, in case i have to return.

Gah, can't seem to find it ANYWHERE! Aria, Scan, Overclock, Overclockers (Pfft last resort!), Komplett, KustomPCs, Dabs, eBuyer........ :'(

Cobbydaler · 24-02-2007, 12:52

Not really sure, but might this do what you want?

Delta Whiskey · 24-02-2007, 14:19

I use one of these: IDE / SATA to USB 2.0 Adaptor
http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?...24m2#more_info

DW

The Jackal · 24-02-2007, 16:36

http://www.span.com/catalog/spanstor..._3_4&x=57&y=12

probably be able to get a hot swap too check span more thoroughly than I just did

Cobbydaler · 24-02-2007, 16:38

He needs PATA...

The Jackal · 24-02-2007, 16:41

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Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

He needs PATA...

He can search

Sure there are a lot of solutions on that site.

EDIT
Something like this :

http://www.span.com/catalog/product_...oducts_id=4779

Span lets you configure what you want only thing about them is to ensure that what you get has a PSU.

ZrByte · 24-02-2007, 17:23

They dont come cheap do they. Mind you I have been looking into NAS wich is a lot more expensive, though IMO a lot more flexible. Specifically im after a buffalo Terrastation 2TB. Though I think A normal 500GB would suit me fine

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The Jackal · 24-02-2007, 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZrByte

They dont come cheap do they. Mind you I have been looking into NAS wich is a lot more expensive, though IMO a lot more flexible. Specifically im after a buffalo Terrastation 2TB. Though I think A normal 500GB would suit me fine

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Well 170 for an 8 disk box with PSU is not too bad considering what you get.

Alternatively try using their bridge boards and building a case yourself but I get the feeling that will turn out more expensive in the long run.

NAS on the cheap Netgears SC101 : http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?quicklinx=3V6Q

Although the software has had great reviews the box itself seems to problematic with noted issues of overheating plus average transfer rates.

Yeh for real NAS I'd use a cheap linux box or maybe even a fast embedded solution with some NAS software. No way would I pay silly NAS prices and remember thats without the disks !

ZrByte · 24-02-2007, 18:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrC-3rr0r

Well 170 for an 8 disk box with PSU is not too bad considering what you get.

Alternatively try using their bridge boards and building a case yourself but I get the feeling that will turn out more expensive in the long run.

NAS on the cheap Netgears SC101 : http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?quicklinx=3V6Q

Although the software has had great reviews the box itself seems to problematic with noted issues of overheating plus average transfer rates.

Yeh for real NAS I'd use a cheap linux box or maybe even a fast embedded solution with some NAS software. No way would I pay silly NAS prices and remember thats without the disks !

Im currently using a windows box running MCE as my NAS. Only problems with that seem to be noise as its in my bedroom and does make a lot of noise even when idling. And for some reason windows setup decides it would be a good idea to destroy the whole partition table on my 300GB drive everytime I need to reinstall. It is recoverable but only with a Third party program so that means I cant install windows on the 300GB drive wich was what I originally wanted to do. As a precaution I unplug the 300GB during windows installation now.
Doesnt the netgear SC101 only support FAT 32 though? I really need either NTFS or Linux partition table support as I do have several large files that are over the FAT 32 size limit.

The Jackal · 24-02-2007, 23:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZrByte

Im currently using a windows box running MCE as my NAS. Only problems with that seem to be noise as its in my bedroom and does make a lot of noise even when idling. And for some reason windows setup decides it would be a good idea to destroy the whole partition table on my 300GB drive everytime I need to reinstall. It is recoverable but only with a Third party program so that means I cant install windows on the 300GB drive wich was what I originally wanted to do. As a precaution I unplug the 300GB during windows installation now.
Doesnt the netgear SC101 only support FAT 32 though? I really need either NTFS or Linux partition table support as I do have several large files that are over the FAT 32 size limit.

About the SC101 I ready this a year or so back linked from tomsnetworking:

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/conte.../24757/75/1/2/

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" however, is the drive format, which Windows reports as SFSZ. So when I tried to run the Windows Disk check and defrag utilities on the SC drive, Windows politely declined. My contact at Zetera explained that SFSZ is a enterprise-class SAN file system from DataPlow designed for "very high-end applications and supercomputing centers". "

Which for a cheap 70 quid machine is quite awesome.

Think people need to understand what NAS, SAN, Distributed Network File Systems are. I guess in its simplest form a windows share can be considered a NAS but I have always associated true NAS as being enterprise class.

With 10Tb at ones disposal one learns quickly the benefits of building a NAS cluster.

pooper · 25-02-2007, 11:02

yah im not interested in a NAS solution, as this is purely for me to access my archives locally

Hmm getting 4x separate USB2 enclosures will be just under ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£100.... which is OK...

Just wondering if it would be better if i got that 4x 5.25" bay enclosure and bought 4 caddies like i currently have...

Hmmmmmmm decisions decisions!

It's annoying really, as i don't plan on having PATA drives for much longer (ideally im hoping this drives will hold out until SSDs become more mainstream.... larger.....and a hell of a lot cheaper!)

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Hmm just been looking around and due to shipping costs and various other factors, i'm most definitely NOT going to be ordering from abroad!

So if anyone can find THIS ENCLOSURE to buy from a UK online retailer, I will love you long time! $5?

(Got my hopes up with Span, but they seem to have everything BUT)

Graham M · 25-02-2007, 11:11

Might be an idea to check out eBay, I've bought a few really cheap USB caddies there before and they're still going

Cobbydaler · 25-02-2007, 11:14

www.specialtech.co.uk stock Stardom products, although that particular model isn't on their website.

Might be worth ringing them on 0870 460 5676?