Virgin Advert last night

Originally Posted by Stuart C

Guys, can we calm down please? If we can all drop the sarcasm, maybe we can have a sensible discussion?

how there is 2 other discussions on this subject already and its all the same old bull in both of them .This is now another thread on traffic shaping just under the guise that he saw an ad but its still the same topic

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Originally Posted by Exorcist74

Location :Virgin Media Services..
This is about a advert ( Virgin Media Services..) posted in!...., Its not about traffic shaping or capping ect, its about what they say and what they acualy mean,if it comes across that way sorry...
Zinglabarb, If you had nothing informative to say about the thread then say nothing, If you think its in the wrong Discussion group then report it, but please say something constructive in your replys to posting made. I respect that you have a high standing in this forum, but please think before you post, Sometimes its better to think somethings than to say somethings....
Sorry If I offend you by my remarks, they are not ment to be hostile in any way, but I would like to quote something you said:

Nothing under my skull well I laugh in your face cuz my rep isnt just for posts and the number of helpful post awards ive had in 2 years aint bad for someone who you consider has a useless brain.
Well your post was very helpfull... thank you

PEACE and best wishes

if you use the quote feature (and maybe the search feature) it would work better

I reiterate my rhetoric from other shaping threads . Im quite happy as a heavy user to have my speed capped from 10 meg to 5 meg at peak times its fine imo its a good idea and is fair for all and coming from someone as selfish as me if I can deal with it everyone should be able to. This forum has been inundated by posts from people who see shaping mentioned and assume everything wrong with there net is this and this is bull. The 2 threads already on this subject have discussed shaping massively and got nowhere as this thread will too

[lauzjp]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

how there is 2 other discussions on this subject already and its all the same old bull in both of them .This is now another thread on traffic shaping just under the guise that he saw an ad but its still the same topic

- I'm sure there are actually more than 2, its just that they are titled different things.

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb

if you use the quote feature (and maybe the search feature) it would work better

lol, this could be said to a lot of people / new posters. I know there are stickies on the boards, but could they not be sent an email as well? *please search for topics (show them how to do so?) before posting*

[Exorcist74]

Come on people all I asked is, Is it right to advertice one thing and get another, once you sign up for it. FULL STOP.
simple question Yes or No

been discussed and 100's of opinions already given on this subject

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12...ping-poll.html

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12...ewsgroups.html

[lauzjp]

Originally Posted by Exorcist74

Come on people all I asked is, Is it right to advertice one thing and get another, once you sign up for it. FULL STOP.
simple question Yes or No

but what you are saying isn't actually accurate now, is it?

Originally Posted by videodj

The BB is unlimited, just because the speed reduces does mean you can't d/l, will just take a bit longer. Others have to use the service as well, why should big leechers get full speed all the time. The service is advertised as upto...

[Downloads]

Originally Posted by Exorcist74

Come on people all I asked is, Is it right to advertice one thing and get another, once you sign up for it. FULL STOP.
simple question Yes or No

I'll restate my position too. Yes i think it's alright.

Business's will never supply infrastructure for 5% of individuals, it doesn't make economic sense, we have a similar situation in my organisation where we have enough licences for a database we use to cover a third of the staff. Is it fair in exceptional circumstances there some staff can't get onto the system right when they want? No it's not, but that's the reality we live in. Money should never be wasted.

[Exorcist74]

Originally Posted by Downloads

I'll restate my position too. Yes i think it's alright.

Business's will never supply infrastructure for 5% of individuals, it doesn't make economic sense, we have a similar situation in my organisation where we have enough licences for a database we use to cover a third of the staff. Is it fair in exceptional circumstances there some staff can't get onto the system right when they want? No it's not, but that's the reality we live in. Money should never be wasted.

Download: I respect your side of the debate, however In reality, you provide the service,not as it should be,but the best you can with what is at hand, and money is never wasted, it's called Proffit

[Downloads]

Originally Posted by Exorcist74

Download: I respect your side of the debate, however In reality, you provide the service,not as it should be,but the best you can with what is at hand, and money is never wasted, it's called Proffit

On a light hearted note, i think you have foiled your own argument, as i wasn't aware Virgin had any profit! heh

[valor]

Flaming Flamed..Heh.

[etccarmageddon]

ok here's the Virgin flyer I got today word for word:-

"the speed advertised is the speed you get, as it doesn't matter how far you live from the telephone exchange - unlike other broadband providers"

no small print or whatever to mention that there is contention or congestion during the busy hours which can reduce your speed.

[nffc]

if you think the advert is unfair, complain to ofcom.

[Chrysalis]

its to play against the many capped adsl products which allow X gig per month.