05-02-2007, 15:25
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
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05-02-2007, 15:54
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
I'd be surprised if Sky One did go. Sky would lose a lot of revenue.
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05-02-2007, 18:59
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
Will FreeView keep SkyOne? If so i would consider canceling my NTL TV (Keeping Phone/NET) and get a freeview box.
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05-02-2007, 19:01
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
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Originally Posted by Lemonzest
Will FreeView keep SkyOne? If so i would consider canceling my NTL TV (Keeping Phone/NET) and get a freeview box.
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Freeview doesn't have Sky One but it does have Sky Three, which is like Sky One but about 12 months behind.
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05-02-2007, 19:06
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
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Oh dear, that wouldn't be good.
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05-02-2007, 19:26
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
Sky One would be no loss at all to me - They have a lot of drivel on that channel anyway. I started watching Lost when it was on Channel 4 / E4 but now I stopped watching it because I just felt it was far too long and drawn out.
Let Sky have their crap channels back and lets face it their movie ones too, because all they do is play repeated cheap rubbish anyway.
Before the rebrand I would of said ntl would of been in a lot of trouble to losing out the Sky channels (If indeed they do lose them anyway) but with a serious multi billionaire investor at the helm (Sir Richard Branson) I cannot see why Virgin shouldn't launch their own channels. V Movies? VOne? Etc.
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05-02-2007, 19:43
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
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Originally Posted by Mick
Sky One would be no loss at all to me .
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Ditto.
Not a big loss to me as I never watch it, but very important to some I can imagine.
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05-02-2007, 19:53
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
i would miss the simpsons and futurama but the other tosh can go
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05-02-2007, 20:08
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
All the loss of Sky One and such like would achieve is loss of advertising revenue to Sky, and to drive many into increased leeching from the internet.
Interesting that that Guardina Article suggests that premium channels, such as Sports are that dominant they couldn't be removed for fear of government action. Presumably that applies to the movies channels too?
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05-02-2007, 20:27
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
SkyOne would be no loss to me at all. I can get all the crap off SkyOne from other means
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05-02-2007, 21:40
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
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05-02-2007, 22:05
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
I think it might be dangerous for BskyB to assume that witholding channels from other carriers will result in increased business for BskyB?
For example, preventing VirginMedia from carrying any BskyB content would likely result in my preference shifting to Freeview, I don't have sports channels subscribed, I wouldn't miss the movie channels, and there are other ways to access content from Sky1???
- In my opinion they have to work out a way to compete, but still co-operate, otherwise they could both start losing subscribers???
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05-02-2007, 22:44
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
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Then register. Its free.
Hell, here most of the article:
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Lovers of the hit shows 24 and Lost who rely upon cable TV risk being cut off mid-season as the deal to supply Sky One to NTL runs out at the end of this month.
BSkyB and NTL, which will relaunch as Virgin Media on Thursday, are in talks to renew the deal but relations between the two are at a low ebb.
A spokesman for Sky stressed that negotiations are at a very early stage and "Sky has always sought wide distribution for its basic channels and we aim to achieve a positive outcome to these discussions".
But marketing insiders fear that Sky could use the leverage of Sky One, which has many of the most viewed programmes available on NTL, to scupper any revival in the cable industry.
In fact, there is no obligation on Sky to make its basic channels - including Sky One - available to rivals. Tiscali, for instance, is relaunching the Homechoice service next month as Tiscali TV without the channel. In 2002 the Office of Fair Trading found that Sky was dominant in the supply of premium channels - such as its Sky Sports channels - so these have to be made available to rivals. But there is no similar ruling on its basic channels.
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06-02-2007, 23:14
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
Hello Virgin, goodbye Sky channels, goodbye contract. Hello Sky+.
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07-02-2007, 04:18
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
SKY get the income from the advertising on their channels, they also get to advertise their wares for free on a competitors platform and get paid by NTL for carriage. It's in SKY's interest to get as much visibility as possible whatever the delivery system, why do you think they have SKY Three on Freeview.
NTL *NEED* SKY's package since SKY ONE, Movies and Sports are such a huge draw. Without those channels NTL would ship huge numbers of TV viewers to satellite.
So. It isn't going to happen, it's in both parties interests to keep each others company and if it does ever happen I'll eat my t-shirt.
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