S.M.A.R.T Error on startup and BSOD Problems - Page 2

videodj · 31-01-2007, 09:42

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Originally Posted by Felinix_Devotion

Okay had another BSOD today same .dll as the bsod shotted above, also I have had a total lock out, my HD literally shutdown on me, nothing in event viewer.

I am leaning towards my psu on it's way out so with about ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£100 what is the best psu about? I am hoping for a modular psu to save on cable clutter.

If you want modular, I'd go for the Hiper Type-R 580W, I brought one last year to replace duff psu, it is quiet, can choose which cables to use, SLI ready, 20 and 24 pin compatible, includes loads of cables, SATA, etc.

Comes in 4 colours, cost abot ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£60-65, definitley the best purchase I made last year, plus it comes in a cool case, which I now use as a small toolbox.

http://www.hipergroup.com/English/pr...hpu-4k580.html

31-01-2007, 09:44

Im running a hiper modular type r also

Check what temp your gfx is running at did it crash playing BF2 again?

videodj · 31-01-2007, 09:46

I like it, always have enough power and runs very stable since the upgrade. I also noticed it booted faster too.

AndrewJ · 31-01-2007, 10:24

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb

Im running a hiper modular type r also

Check what temp your gfx is running at did it crash playing BF2 again?

When I got back to Windows my gfx was on 51c, tickover right now after running all night as I don't shut it down is 44c on the graphics.

I like the look of that PSU now to find a nice seller in the UK

and the price is nice

As for what needs powering.

My specs these days are;

Asus A8N32-SLi Deluxe
AMD X2 4600
1GB DDR400
WD 250GB SATA2
MSi Nvidia 7900GT
Onboard Sound
About 10 Usb Ports ( alot in use for webcam, headset mouse etc )
And my well used dvdrw drive.

nffc · 31-01-2007, 12:49

Badcaps Forums - Unsafe PSUs

31-01-2007, 12:58

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Originally Posted by nffc

Badcaps Forums - Unsafe PSUs

what we looking at dont make us read

nffc · 31-01-2007, 13:33

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb

what we looking at dont make us read

Read it, it's a forum about crap PSUs...

This comment is especially funny...

Cprossu 12-19-2005 12:41 AM Re: Unsafe PSUs

I would like to see something like that,
as of now I know of a shop where they have the psu's actually out of the boxes, and whenever I am there looking at PSU's, people and salesmen around me get really confused and nervous when they see me looking through a crack in the PSU at some cockeyed angle with a flashlight pointed in the fan grill and scream "Damn this POS had fuhjjyo's in it!"

one time I was asked by a salesman "Can I help you with anything?"
I responded "I just want a PSU which doesn't explode"
Then he pointed me to some L&C's and Allied's
to which I exclaimed "THOSE BLOW UP!"
to which he told me "I've been running an L&C for a year, they are great supplies"
I commented "I hope you have good house insurance and a fire extinguisher if you have that plugged in when your away"

well 2 months later, that guy tracked me down in the store when I was buying some memory and told me that his L&C did blow up. (But then again, for Deer based psu's, confusious once say, "Deer PSU's which is used only explode if they should exist"

At this point I would like to comment that I knew the fellow responsible for drawing out the final production schematics for that PCB of deer psu's and that those cursed schematics exploded in a spectacular array of colors burning his house to the ground (but not hurting anyone too badly), but that is untrue, a lie, and would certainly make me feel better after replacing so many of those damn pieces of garbage.

whoops let my bad side escape for a moment back there- sorry! =)

---------- Post added at 13:32 ---------- Previous post was at 13:28 ----------

and if you search the forum the Hiper type-r has the Fuhjjyu (sp) caps that they really hate (because the formula for the electrolyte was stolen by espionage, and they didn't include an anti-corrosive, so they, err, tend to leak...)
http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...iper#post20792
http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...iper#post20324

---------- Post added at 13:33 ---------- Previous post was at 13:32 ----------

and mine is the 500W version of this one
http://www.badcaps.net/forum/showthr...torm#post14938

AndrewJ · 31-01-2007, 15:51

ANY PRODUCT has bad ones, their is nothing in existance which is perfect, their will be bad batches their will be with anything.

It's what warranties are for.

nffc · 01-02-2007, 00:01

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Originally Posted by Felinix_Devotion

ANY PRODUCT has bad ones, their is nothing in existance which is perfect, their will be bad batches their will be with anything.

It's what warranties are for.

You miss the point of those posts. Those caps are widely acknowledged as utter POS. As the wiki article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague says...

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In some cases, the root cause of the failing capacitors is industrial espionage gone wrong. Several Taiwanese electrolyte manufacturers began using a stolen formula that was incomplete, and lacked ingredients needed to produce a stable capacitor. [4] (An anti-corrosion ingredient was not documented, reported in comp.risks[5])

Going back firmly and truly on topic, the fuhjyyo caps in the Hiper are in this category, because they used the stolen formula, and so are a total POS because they will corrode and leak causing the caps - and the PSU - to blow (over time).

I might open my PSU next time i'm in the PC and check the caps. Always a good idea to do.

yeah you will get bad batches in anything, but surely you'll accept if they're using caps that inherently corrode, because the anti-corrosive isn't included, then you're way way more likely to get one blow - or under watt - or anything. These PSU faults can be shown in anything.

The FSP supplies seem to get a good report though, wherever you look. Mine's been fine (touch chipwood) so far, is very stable, and accurate too.

AndrewJ · 01-02-2007, 02:00

Okay NFFC you do make a good point, what PSU *modular only please* would you recommend.

nffc · 01-02-2007, 02:25

Why the urgent need to go modular - mine isn't, I just tie the ones I don't need out of the way.

I would consider it to be the lesser of two evils if the other was crap caps.

The FSP ones, as I said, seem to have a good reputation. Have a look on that badcaps forum and see what you think...

AndrewJ · 01-02-2007, 17:20

Modular so I can sort out the wires with more precision.

So whats a good modular one so I dont have to read a forum?

Graham M · 01-02-2007, 17:24

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Originally Posted by nffc

Badcaps Forums - Unsafe PSUs

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- Deer DR-A300ATX (Deet Computer Co. Ltd)
- CP4 CTX350WCE
- Macron MPT-350 (Macron Power)
- Q-Tec ST-400P4-DTCF (Q-Tec, China)
- Mentor AM608B1-300WS (Achme Electronics Corp.)
- Q-Tec ST-400ATX P4 (Q-Tec, China)
- Codegen 300X ATX 2.03 P4 (Codegen)
- Task TK-930TX (Task International Inc.)
- ADT ADT-300 (ADT, China)
- ADT ADT-250 (ADT, China)
- Tagan TG330-U01 (ToPower Electronics Co Ltd, China)

Heh, I have the 400x and it runs almost 24/7

AndrewJ · 01-02-2007, 17:37

I think then that it boils down to all psu's have bad batches...and even if the one I've my eye on does go bang I'll keep this one for backup and keep the receipt should it bork so I can return it.

AndrewJ · 03-02-2007, 09:39

Right twice in the past 48hours i've heard my HD loose power, just winds down, then a BSOD comes up, stupid me didn't screenshot it though, and Event Viewer shows nothing.

I game hard on this computer and I've no artifacts nor random slowdown, just strange lockups.

Now I am leaning to this being the PSU unit but is these problems a indicator of another problem?