15-11-2004, 23:09
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Is This For Real ????
A very good friend of mine in Holand has just told me that they have changed the law over there and are now actively logging the following information from everybody at all times :-
Internet :-
Source IP
Destination IP
Length of session
Type of traffic
Ammount of data transfered
Telephone :-
Source telepone number
Destination telephone number
Length of call
Recording of conversation.
This has come from a very good mate but I am still having a hard time taking this seriosly. Apart from the imposible act of monitoring all of the above from the technical point of view this allso raised abvios privacy issues.... Aparently this new amendment to the telecomunications act has arisen becouse of the recent terrorist activities over there.
I have had a look on the net but I cant find very much info that is in english.
Shock Horror 
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15-11-2004, 23:11
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Re: Is This For Real ????
If it is true, then as you say, one massive blow to privacy etc etc
Oh, and hi ya mate  
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15-11-2004, 23:12
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Re: Is This For Real ????
Pure bull Stuart, and technically impossible.
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15-11-2004, 23:13
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Re: Is This For Real ????
Sounds like a wind-up to me
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15-11-2004, 23:15
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Re: Is This For Real ????
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Originally Posted by Paul M
Pure bull Stuart, and technically impossible.
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That is what I thought !! I could not believe it myself, But he has actualy recived an email from his ISP explaining all this and it has aparently been all over the news in holand.
If this has come from anyone else I would have though " bovine excrement " instanly but this guy is a realy good freind and I trust that he is telling me the truth, Oh and just incase I got him to check the email header and the mail did come from his ISP...
So either the government over there are spouting bull and trying to scare off the nastys or they are going to install some serios new hardware in holland !
P.S. Hi Bopdude - How are you ? and I hope you had a nice holiday bifta.
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15-11-2004, 23:20
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Re: Is This For Real ????
just tried googling for it and nothing  , hows it going btw 
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15-11-2004, 23:25
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Re: Is This For Real ????
Same here - Cant find anything in english....
While I do not beleive that are going to monitor all voice and internat comms as this is tottaly imposible it does make you wonder if holland are going to have the dreaded black boxes installed !
P.S. I am fine Paul... Hows you ?
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15-11-2004, 23:25
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Originally Posted by Stuartbe
That is what I thought !! I could not believe it myself, But he has actualy recived an email from his ISP explaining all this and it has aparently been all over the news in holand. <snip>
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I listen to Dutch radio and read the online Dutch newspapers on a daily basis, and I have heard nothing about this, so I think someone is pulling your leg.
Edit: Ask your friend for a link, and I'll post a translation
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15-11-2004, 23:27
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Originally Posted by danielf
I listen to Dutch radio and read the online Dutch newspapers on a daily basis, and I have heard nothing about this, so I think someone is pulling your leg.
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Hmmm.... Thats what I though.... But this guy is not the type for wind ups ...
Must be a wind up !
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15-11-2004, 23:33
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Hmmm.... Thats what I though.... But this guy is not the type for wind ups ...
Must be a wind up !
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Call his bluff (read my edit)...
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16-11-2004, 08:45
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Re: Is This For Real ????
if i was working for he dutch secret intel gatherers then id be happy that how we was doing it didnt appear on google and people thought it was impossible i doubt it is true but i imagine if someone wanted to find that info out they could
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16-11-2004, 09:41
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Re: Is This For Real ????
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Originally Posted by Paul M
Pure bull Stuart, and technically impossible.
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Question - Why do you think this is impossible?
Internet - Would require all ISP's to record the same informaton - Information is available therefore just a storage issue.
Telephone - Definately possible - but again just a storage issue (and maybe a bit of QOS problems)
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16-11-2004, 09:49
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Re: Is This For Real ????
I think the question is........why bother? !!!!
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