18-01-2007, 12:14
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
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Originally Posted by brundles
I don't think you can really compare the two. Although Tesco may have to odd less than ethical practice, they are in a market that has a lot of true competition.
Sky meanwhile are engaging in these less than ethical practices in order to stop anyone from being able to truely compete with them.
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The competition may be there now, come back in 5 maybe 10 years time and there will be a different story, as I see it the aims of sky are similar to tesco, to be number one, with tesco if this means the small retailer going to the wall it is seen by them as business.
Look back over the past ten years to the amount of stores they had then, then have a look now.
I just think that all companies are as bad as each other when it comes to making money.
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18-01-2007, 12:53
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
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Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004
The competition may be there now, come back in 5 maybe 10 years time and there will be a different story, as I see it the aims of sky are similar to tesco, to be number one, with tesco if this means the small retailer going to the wall it is seen by them as business.
Look back over the past ten years to the amount of stores they had then, then have a look now.
I just think that all companies are as bad as each other when it comes to making money.
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the tesco scenario is slightly different, if sky remove channels from ntl, who else can you use to watch sky channels (except sky)? with tesco, they aren't building shops and removing other companies shops so the option of not going to tesco is and always will be there
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18-01-2007, 13:46
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
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Originally Posted by dev
the tesco scenario is slightly different, if sky remove channels from ntl, who else can you use to watch sky channels (except sky)? with tesco, they aren't building shops and removing other companies shops so the option of not going to tesco is and always will be there
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Is it not like Tesco own brand products though? 
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18-01-2007, 13:59
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
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Somehow i think Mr Branson has put the fear of god into $ky. why else would they be throwing there teddies about. $ky have had it easy far to long. I hope to see the day when $ky get a good smack in the face.  |
As a side note, who sold BSB (a company that, IMO, if properly handled could have severly damaged Sky) to Murdoch? Oh, that's right. Richard Branson.
However, something may have happned. Sky do appear to be scared.
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Originally Posted by dev
the tesco scenario is slightly different, if sky remove channels from ntl, who else can you use to watch sky channels (except sky)? with tesco, they aren't building shops and removing other companies shops so the option of not going to tesco is and always will be there
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Tescos can't (and don't) do that directly. However, they are large enough that they can make conditions extremely difficult for other shops to trade (and I'm not just talking about the small retailers either, HMV have been complaining).
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18-01-2007, 14:01
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
 I only pay for NTL TV to watch Sky1...
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18-01-2007, 14:04
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
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I only pay for NTL TV to watch Sky1... |
I think your OK, this does look like a lot of hot air, and a very typical bargaining chip being played.
Sky can't afford a drop of about 3M in viewing figures, it would cripple their advertising revenue, which could then meen less cash in the pot for purchasing new programs.
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18-01-2007, 17:59
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
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Originally Posted by Stuart C
As a side note, who sold BSB (a company that, IMO, if properly handled could have severly damaged Sky) to Murdoch? Oh, that's right. Richard Branson.
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Virgin withdrew from the BSB consortium long before BSB merged with SKY.
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18-01-2007, 18:01
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
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I only pay for NTL TV to watch Sky1... |
I take it you don't have a phone line from them either. Sky One is on their free package
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18-01-2007, 18:17
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
All i see from this is $ky running scared. Why else would they resort to these tactics.
At last someone that has put the fear of god in to $ky 
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18-01-2007, 18:42
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
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Originally Posted by Horace
Virgin withdrew from the BSB consortium long before BSB merged with SKY.
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According to Private Eye, it was, however, either that act or something else Richard Branson did that triggered the merger.
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19-01-2007, 23:21
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
As much as I enjoy Sky One (especially recently, with reruns of Bones which I really like), if I was given the ultimatum of losing either Sky One or Bravo, I would keep Bravo - [Adult Swim] is too good to let go 
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19-01-2007, 23:30
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
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Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004
The competition may be there now, come back in 5 maybe 10 years time and there will be a different story, as I see it the aims of sky are similar to tesco, <snip>
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Perhaps we will see Sky Clubcard Points?
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19-01-2007, 23:48
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
Well, I would be sorry to see Sky One go.....but, lets face it, there are, urm, other ways to 'acquire' Sky One's content  - and sooner than Sky get it, minus the adverts.
The only true loss for me then is Sky Sports. At least I would save around £25 per month, and looking ahead to the next football season (being a Coventry City fan I want this season over now), there's always Sentena Sports at £15 per month. Withdrawing Sky Sports from Virgin could backfire on Sky in a BIG way then - how many Cable footy fans would go crawling back to Sky Sports when its finally put back on for Virgin Media customers?
No doubt about it. Sky's worse nightmare finally is coming true. Cable is finally getting its act together, and Sky are ****ting themselves. Its worth re-branding NTL Telewest for that alone. 
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20-01-2007, 00:23
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
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Well, I would be sorry to see Sky One.....but, lets face it, there are, urm, other ways to 'acquire' Sky One's content - and sooner than Sky get it, minus the adverts.
The only true loss for me then is Sky Sports. At least I would save around £25 per month, and looking ahead to the next football season (being a Coventry City fan I want this season over now), there's always Sentena Sports at £15 per month. Withdrawing Sky Sports from Virgin could backfire on Sky in a BIG way then - how many Cable footy fans would go crawling back to Sky Sports when its finally put back on for Virgin Media customers?
No doubt about it. Sky's worse nightmare finally is coming true. Cable is finally getting its act together, and Sky are ****ting themselves. Its worth re-branding NTL Telewest for that alone. |
Excellent post
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20-01-2007, 00:33
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Re: Sky Channels on NTL
Isn't there some clause with the broadcasting watchdog that sky have to give cable certain channels so there is not a monopoly. If so could this just be hot air blown by SKY
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