iPhone - Page 5

Stuart · 10-01-2007, 14:03

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Originally Posted by Debbie B

Must be a boy thing cos I just want a phone to ring and I can call people. Don't care about pixels and cameras and two-flange-overmeters or whatever gizmos you end up paying a fortune for

I seem to remember sitting in a London pub with a certain lady who was fascinated by Chris W's smartphone..

Nikesh · 10-01-2007, 18:17

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

I don't know if this applies to other airlines, but Virgin specifically tell you to turn off your phone even if it has a flight mode.

I was so annoyed when I heard this on the aeroplane. I bought a SE W810i instead of buying a separate mp3 player and phone thinking that I would be allowed to listen to music on the plane in flight mode.

SMHarman · 10-01-2007, 18:52

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Originally Posted by Nikesh

I was so annoyed when I heard this on the aeroplane. I bought a SE W810i instead of buying a separate mp3 player and phone thinking that I would be allowed to listen to music on the plane in flight mode.

Not any more
http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/gb...useonboard.jsp
In flight, once fasten seatbelt signs are turned off:
Mobile telephones, smartphones and PDAs: may be used but they must be in flight safe mode from before departure. Those without flight safe mode will have to remain turned off.
Curiously they will also check for this - gawd knows how.
LAPTOP BATTERY RESTRICTIONS
Customers wishing to use an Apple, Dell or IBM laptop on board can only do so once the laptop battery serial number has been checked by a member of the Cabin Crew.

- If the battery is permitted for use, the laptop may be used as normal on board, with no further restrictions.

- If however the battery is identified as being from the affected batch as identified by Apple, Dell or IBM, the battery must be removed. In cabins where the seats are fitted with In Seat Power Supplies, leads/adapters will be offered. Where no ISPS is provided or no laptop leads/adapters are available, the use of these affected laptops is prohibited.

Any removed or spare batteries must be individually wrapped/protected and placed in your Carry On Baggage. This is limited to two batteries per passenger.

Virgin Atlantic is in communication with Apple, Dell and IBM. As soon as this safety issue is resolved these restrictions will be lifted.

Nikesh · 10-01-2007, 19:17

That's good then, they've changed the rules. I went on Virgin Atlantic last summer and I wasn't allowed to use my phone in flight mode.

**Chris** · 10-01-2007, 23:41

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Originally Posted by Gavin

I stand corrected on that... But it still doesn't add a massive amount over its competitors.

On the contrary, it adds plenty. It runs bona-fide OSX, including widget applications ... and there are already tonnes of those available, free, to download. Lots and lots of little fun add-ons ready and waiting. I could have just as much fun with this as I used to with my Palm before it became a little obsolete and I got bored being told by palmgear.com that my handheld wouldn't run the apps that sounded the most fun.

Plus they will get OSX under the noses of a wider community of developers, which they are sure to be hoping will have pay-offs for the Mac itself. I think Apple has been extremely shrewd here.

**Damien** · 11-01-2007, 00:36

I not to sure on the iPhone just yet. I am trying to decide between the Nokia N73 or the Sony K800i :S

handyman · 11-01-2007, 02:13

Finally got the keynote to stream and watched it all.

Gob smacked by the phone, if it runs half as smooth as the demo it will be better than most out there.

SMHarman · 11-01-2007, 06:26

Just that like an iPod it will be impossible to use with a glove on. Trying to work out where the remote control wire for my 3G iPod is so I don't keep having to take my gloves off this winter.

---------- Post added at 00:26 ---------- Previous post was yesterday at 23:54 ----------

On the full keynote presentation around 50.11 he says 3G is on the roadmap. So don't go expecting it just yet? There is a huge US market to sell this too first, working on one network, not trying to adapt its functionality to the quirks of the multiple EU networks.
Wonder if they will let the networks co brand it - splash screens, menu layouts hotkeys to their content sites etc.

'Plan to make 3g phones and all sorts of other amazing things in the future'

Downloads · 11-01-2007, 08:56

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Originally Posted by Derek S

Yep Linksys launched some Voip phones tagged iPhone a few weeks back. Probably flogged the brand name to Apple for a large sum.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6250511.stm

Well you were right deathtrap3000. According to this link, Cisco are gonna fight them for it. Apple didn't pay them any money and they asked permission, but were denied. Apple say its silly but it looks pretty clear to me.

Cisco have used their name in one of their own products, i presume if Apple can do this, someone else can release an Ipod?

**Damien** · 11-01-2007, 09:47

I thought they would try to resolve it. They were in talks, it seems a pretty weak case giving that Apple are well known for the 'i' prefix and a phone was on the way.

I am pretty sure in cases such as that, a company can claim it would have been their trademark. Similar to the way web domains are handled if you take one that could be used in advance.

handyman · 11-01-2007, 10:11

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Originally Posted by SMHarman

'Plan to make 3g phones and all sorts of other amazing things in the future'

I'm hoping something like a iphone nano, which would be pretty cool.

dd2k · 11-01-2007, 10:28

for years now ive always said "ill never have an ipod", but damn, that phone is tempting!

my n80 maybe taking early retirement

Not sure what to reckon of the law suit, It is abit cheeky for them to go ahead and use the name after cisco refused it. But apple maybe able to claim that they have a better market presense with the i prefix

Downloads · 11-01-2007, 10:59

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Originally Posted by Damien

I thought they would try to resolve it. They were in talks, it seems a pretty weak case giving that Apple are well known for the 'i' prefix and a phone was on the way.

I am pretty sure in cases such as that, a company can claim it would have been their trademark. Similar to the way web domains are handled if you take one that could be used in advance.

I don't think so, according to the site the name was registered for years prior to 2000 when Cisco procured it. How can they then claim it would have been their's when it was already in use by Infogear prior to 2000 before being bought by Cisco, who by default then owned that name?

Sorry that won't hold, there is no way on this planet they will be given it.

**Hugh** · 11-01-2007, 11:02

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Originally Posted by Damien

I thought they would try to resolve it. They were in talks, it seems a pretty weak case giving that Apple are well known for the 'i' prefix and a phone was on the way.

I am pretty sure in cases such as that, a company can claim it would have been their trademark. Similar to the way web domains are handled if you take one that could be used in advance.

Cisco could have a case -
Link

"The firm has owned the name since it bought Infogear Technology in 2000, which registered the name. Infogear had previously used the name for several years, said Cisco."

Infogear filed for the iPhone trademark in 1996, two years before the iMac came out.

edit - bottoms, just beaten to it.

Stuart · 11-01-2007, 11:39

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Originally Posted by Downloads

I don't think so, according to the site the name was registered for years prior to 2000 when Cisco procured it. How can they then claim it would have been their's when it was already in use by Infogear prior to 2000 before being bought by Cisco, who by default then owned that name?

Sorry that won't hold, there is no way on this planet they will be given it.

Why not? They won the right to use the name iTunes after somebody had registered that a year or so before Apple announced the iPod.