10 MB for All in December
23-11-2006, 10:18
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Re: 10 MB for All in December
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Originally Posted by kizzu
im completely green about technical sides of broadband but thanks TheCrow now i understand why my torrents are slower than slow. I didnt know about such a brilliant invention as traffic shaping! thats why i was wondering why i had a massive download speeds when i was on 8mpbs homechoice ADSL few months ago, now i decided to join the great cable NTL and what i got? traffic shaping god.... whats ****ing me off is that traffic shaping shapes my life in wrong way haha. if i have 2 torrents on websites load like on dialup and im on 10mbps for 35 pounds. im considering using my ace - refund request hehe. do you know whether Be Broadband or Bulldog (because these two adsl are availble where I live) are any good?
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I would sooner have no internet than be with Bulldog again, in fact while i was with them it pretty well was like having no internet.
Ok when it worked it was a good speed, but nearly 3 weeks total downtime over a 3 month period is hardly reliable.[ and that meant no phone either on their package].
If you ever think NTL is crap, just try some others,
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23-11-2006, 21:59
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#47
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Re: 10 MB for All in December
Hope this is true, I host fm07 clan games over mine and its not too hot in glasgow at times!....
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24-11-2006, 00:05
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#48
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Re: 10 MB for All in December
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Originally Posted by ZrByte
Try limiting your upload in your P2P program to 90% of your total upload rate, should sort out that problem you are having as that has nothing to do with traffic shaping.
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Yeah i have tried this allready mate and it didn't change anything! I even limited my upload to just 10kbps and it was still like browsing on dial up.
To be fair i can see why they trafic shape as if i was hogging all the bandwidth the rest of my street would be pretty ****ed off!
If there is anything i do want to download i'll just do it at non peak times. Its not that much of a hardship.
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24-11-2006, 00:20
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Re: 10 MB for All in December
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Originally Posted by TheCrow
Yeah i have tried this allready mate and it didn't change anything! I even limited my upload to just 10kbps and it was still like browsing on dial up.
To be fair i can see why they trafic shape as if i was hogging all the bandwidth the rest of my street would be pretty ****ed off!
If there is anything i do want to download i'll just do it at non peak times. Its not that much of a hardship.
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sounds like you may have some other type of connection issue or an area wide problem? Traffic shaping wouldnt effect web browsing, and if it did it wouldnt be dependant on wether you where using your p2p or not as it doesnt throttle your whole connection, just the ports and data types being used by your p2p.
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24-11-2006, 01:16
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Re: 10 MB for All in December
i wouldnt gt your hopes up for 10mb for all. to the best of my knowledge, that idea was dead in the water months ago.
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24-11-2006, 16:24
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Re: 10 MB for All in December
As with the other upgrades, there is always some truth even if very small on the grape vine!
I have faith in the others information, because its to easy to trace back who said what and if they were giving us usful info, if not who would give them a second again on here, i for one would not......
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24-11-2006, 19:17
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Re: 10 MB for All in December
I seem to recall them promising 10Mb/ for all users by the end of the year. This may have changed as a result of Virgin, but why dont they have the gumption to say it's changed rather than hope everyone forgets about their previous promises?
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24-11-2006, 19:47
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Re: 10 MB for All in December
NTL have to compete in the isp service world. The ordinary Joe public who has no knowledge of computers and broadband will go by what is advertised . NTL will therefore have to compete with the likes of BT who specify up to 8Mb. This means that 10Mb will surely be the bottom tier just to compete on the same level. The people who tend to respond to cableforum are not joe public and and tend to be technical in many instances. With the likes of Sky and Carphone Warehouse muscling in this sector NTL have no option but to raise their game and attract those that do not reply to this forum. 10Mb will be basic service with NTL sooner or later. I think much sooner than people think.
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24-11-2006, 19:54
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Re: 10 MB for All in December
I can't wait for the 100 mbit service, it might work like the 10 mbit is supposed too. At the momment I may as well be on 2 mbit. A complete waste of money.
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24-11-2006, 20:17
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Re: 10 MB for All in December
This is the norm i get throughout the day. However post 6pm browsing does seem to slow down as does p2p downloads even with the above results. Other members of the family on AOL using BT line also suffer speed issues after 6pm so this seems to be a general issue. Throttling seems to be the norm these days.
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24-11-2006, 20:24
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Re: 10 MB for All in December
Yeah but I'm supposed to be on 10 mbit not 1 or 2 mbit. Even with peak time traffic should produce better results than 1200 kb/s.
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Originally Posted by pachelbel
This is the norm i get throughout the day. However post 6pm browsing does seem to slow down as does p2p downloads even with the above results. Other members of the family on AOL using BT line also suffer speed issues after 6pm so this seems to be a general issue. Throttling seems to be the norm these days.
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24-11-2006, 20:44
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Re: 10 MB for All in December
Yeah but I'm supposed to be on 10 mbit not 1 or 2 mbit. Even with peak time traffic should produce better results than 1200 kb/s.
I agree. I keep reading cableforum issues regarding speed issues but i can honestly say that my connection has been consistent since i joined NTL 18 months ago. The only problem i have is i should be on 2Meg after the 1Meg upgrade but ended up with 10Meg for which i now have a second account along with my 3 for £30. Having spoke to CS i hope it has been rectified. All this does not help people with slow speeds and i can only hope that you resolve your poor service.
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24-11-2006, 21:04
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Re: 10 MB for All in December
I'm happy with my 10Mbps connection at the moment
1st 512K took 391 ms = 1309.5 KB/sec, approx 10790 Kbps, 10.54 Mbps
2nd 512K took 437 ms = 1171.6 KB/sec, approx 9654 Kbps, 9.43 Mbps
3rd 512K took 454 ms = 1127.8 KB/sec, approx 9293 Kbps, 9.08 Mbps
4th 512K took 421 ms = 1216.2 KB/sec, approx 10021 Kbps, 9.79 Mbps
Overall Average Speed = approx 9940 Kbps, 9.71 Mbps
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24-11-2006, 21:09
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Re: 10 MB for All in December
Had a call from BT today offering upto 8mb, rang C/S and they put me onto 10mb for three months, free.
not sorted yet though
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24-11-2006, 23:11
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Re: 10 MB for All in December
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Originally Posted by Phill70
Had a call from BT today offering upto 8mb, rang C/S and they put me onto 10mb for three months, free.
not sorted yet though

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Try powering off your modem for 30seconds then on again and let settle for 1 minute. Check your Operation Config at http://192.168.100.1/ login/password both root. If you're on 10mbit you should see Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 10240000 Maximum Upstream Data Rate : 512000.
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