10 MB for All in December - Page 3

Cozzy · 21-11-2006, 13:34

HI

on Telewest myself (10Mb) but dont see much point going upto 20Mb if they bring in the traffic management as they are now trialling (see post in Telewest Throttling)

what will be the point of higher speeds if its crippled by throttling ?

more speed is great but it = more restrictions = less freedom of choice = no point in having a higher speed as you cant do what you want with it

bad move ntl:Telewest / Virgin Media whatever you wish to be called but expect will be a few choice swear words before long .. lol

Cozzy

DerekRothwell · 21-11-2006, 17:04

Seems there are a few on here want to download stuff before its actually been written.

I guess the speed freaks are looking for the same sort of computers and speeds they see on the Starship Enterprise.

AntiSilence · 21-11-2006, 17:07

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ

I think you should of phoned up to get that replaced ages ago and get a modem installed. If they try and charge you for it, say you want to cancel your service as you're not receiving what your paying for. More often than not you will then get a free modem upgrade.

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Zingle you're to damn fast mate!

I don't think Zing is human. I think he's a robot/cyborg or something. Look out for some signs like the words "I'll be back" at the bottom of his posts.

SnoopZ · 21-11-2006, 17:25

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Originally Posted by AntiSilence

I don't think Zing is human. I think he's a robot/cyborg or something. Look out for some signs like the words "I'll be back" at the bottom of his posts.

Nikesh · 22-11-2006, 16:29

I doubt everyone will get 10mb in December, there is no way their network can cope with it but I do think that the broadband speeds will get increased again once they become Virgin Media. I just wish they would increase the upload speeds! I hope they don't bring traffic management into it though.

Nikesh

22-11-2006, 17:01

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Originally Posted by Nikesh

I hope they don't bring traffic management into it though.

Nikesh

They already have.

punky · 22-11-2006, 17:08

In the OP, he/she/it mentioned pay as you download.

Does anyone know if the rumours include all tiers now or just certain ones or even any?

TheCrow · 22-11-2006, 18:27

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Originally Posted by Bill C

They already have.

This i can back up 100% My traffic is shaped from 6pm onwards. If after 6pm i start up a torrent or limewire the traffic slows right down and i can barely manage 1mb download. But ntl state that normal traffic such as browsing, etc are not shaped. Well mine is! As soon as a torrent etc are started the internet is unusable, a waste of ime.

But if this is what it takes to make the internet run smoothly and fair for everybody then i must applaud them. Simply leave your torrents or whatever running at non peak hours. Simple.

But when i try just normal browsing and nothing else, and it is barely any quicker than dial up im mad. Why i waste ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£35 a month for dial up speeds i have no idea! Why do i waste ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£35 a month for them to not even care when some little ******* kid chucks a firework in the ubr because it has been bust open and left for two months? Simple! Because unfortunately even tho they are crap at times, 75% of the time they are better than other isps.

But planning on upping the sppeds is just mental!

Hang on a minute, my 1980 vauxhall nova is just about to fall apart, i know lets make it better and put a 4 litre chevy in it! Lets watch it properly fall apart!

wlmlb · 22-11-2006, 19:38

Mine is OK at the moment.

Nikesh · 22-11-2006, 20:28

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Originally Posted by Bill C

They already have.

Damn, well if its for the benefit of everyone, I suppose it's a good thing.

Nikesh

22-11-2006, 20:43

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Originally Posted by Nikesh

Damn, well if its for the benefit of everyone, I suppose it's a good thing.

Nikesh

Fully agree

kizzu · 22-11-2006, 21:13

im completely green about technical sides of broadband but thanks TheCrow now i understand why my torrents are slower than slow. I didnt know about such a brilliant invention as traffic shaping! thats why i was wondering why i had a massive download speeds when i was on 8mpbs homechoice ADSL few months ago, now i decided to join the great cable NTL and what i got? traffic shaping god.... whats ****ing me off is that traffic shaping shapes my life in wrong way haha. if i have 2 torrents on websites load like on dialup and im on 10mbps for 35 pounds. im considering using my ace - refund request hehe. do you know whether Be Broadband or Bulldog (because these two adsl are availble where I live) are any good?

mcmanic · 22-11-2006, 23:02

IMHO anyone who pays top whack for fastest level of service is mad when they are being traffic shaped. Basically your paying for the privilege of having the best service available but being told you cannot use it to its full effect. This is why i downgraded to 4 meg months ago, may be slower, still effected by traffic shaping but at least i'm saving some cash. I think the more people that cotton on to this will follow suit and would rather pay less for a sub standerd service as there is and will be no incentive to pay top teir prices for such a shoddy service/traffic shaping

AndrewJ · 22-11-2006, 23:09

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Originally Posted by mcmanic

IMHO anyone who pays top whack for fastest level of service is mad when they are being traffic shaped. Basically your paying for the privilege of having the best service available but being told you cannot use it to its full effect. This is why i downgraded to 4 meg months ago, may be slower, still effected by traffic shaping but at least i'm saving some cash. I think the more people that cotton on to this will follow suit and would rather pay less for a sub standerd service as there is and will be no incentive to pay top teir prices for such a shoddy service/traffic shaping

The single reason I have 10mb right now, even though its slower then a dead donkey with no legs with a oncoming wind, is for the upload, I have two pc's going and I game on bf2142 and my partner users chat/msn and yahoo webcam with her friends so I need the upload.

If ntl did for ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£24,99 4mb down 512k up I would downgrade the monent they was open tommorow.

ZrByte · 23-11-2006, 01:21

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Originally Posted by TheCrow

This i can back up 100% My traffic is shaped from 6pm onwards. If after 6pm i start up a torrent or limewire the traffic slows right down and i can barely manage 1mb download. But ntl state that normal traffic such as browsing, etc are not shaped. Well mine is! As soon as a torrent etc are started the internet is unusable, a waste of ime.

But if this is what it takes to make the internet run smoothly and fair for everybody then i must applaud them. Simply leave your torrents or whatever running at non peak hours. Simple.

But when i try just normal browsing and nothing else, and it is barely any quicker than dial up im mad. Why i waste ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£35 a month for dial up speeds i have no idea! Why do i waste ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£35 a month for them to not even care when some little ******* kid chucks a firework in the ubr because it has been bust open and left for two months? Simple! Because unfortunately even tho they are crap at times, 75% of the time they are better than other isps.

But planning on upping the sppeds is just mental!

Hang on a minute, my 1980 vauxhall nova is just about to fall apart, i know lets make it better and put a 4 litre chevy in it! Lets watch it properly fall apart!

Try limiting your upload in your P2P program to 90% of your total upload rate, should sort out that problem you are having as that has nothing to do with traffic shaping.