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Old 08-11-2006, 22:03   #31
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Re: Guilty x3

None of them were especially devout Muslims. The main reason they went out looking for a white boy to attack was one of them got a kicking outside a nightclub.

Drinking and mixing with women is hardly the thing males who attended Maddrasses is likely to get up to.

They were thugs pure and simple. Kris was in the wrong place in the company of the wrong person at the wrong time. If it wasn't him someone else would have got it.

One of them had two convictions for serious assaults which should really have been attempted murder (definately for the 1st one)
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when its a white on asian/black attack do we suggest that evil comes from the uk?
Mostly yes, don't people say the BNP for instance are evil and racist?
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Old 09-11-2006, 08:09   #33
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Mostly yes, don't people say the BNP for instance are evil and racist?
do they say the bnp are evil because they come from the uk?
the comment that evil came from pakistan doesnt seem to have been substantiated. given that the local mp, of pakistani descent, was crucial to the arrest of these three it could be said that good comes from pakistan. it gets really confusing when you look at the praise given to all communities in pollokshields which means good comes from wherever all those communities originally derived. i hope that demonstrates the nonsense of the comment that remains unexplained - far be it from me to suggest an agenda was being pushed though ;-).
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do they say the bnp are evil because they come from the uk?
the comment that evil came from pakistan doesnt seem to have been substantiated. given that the local mp, of pakistani descent, was crucial to the arrest of these three it could be said that good comes from pakistan. it gets really confusing when you look at the praise given to all communities in pollokshields which means good comes from wherever all those communities originally derived. i hope that demonstrates the nonsense of the comment that remains unexplained - far be it from me to suggest an agenda was being pushed though ;-).
An agenda? Shirley not?

Although, if their ancestry is pakistani, then to say that the evil came from pakistan isn't untrue.
Just as I came all the way from Saxony through my ancestry to be here today, they came all the way from pakistan through their ancestry to get to where they are (facing life in prison).
Now, who'd like to borrow my forum crowbar next until Escapee comes back to justify his comment (although as other members have yet to justify their comments in threads they've started and instead tried to hijack this one, I suppose it's normal to say things and not back them up).
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Old 09-11-2006, 08:40   #35
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An agenda? Shirley not?

Although, if their ancestry is pakistani, then to say that the evil came from pakistan isn't untrue.
they didnt but is untrue anyway. if they had come from pakistan it was them that came, not the notion of evil which can or cannot exist in anyone regrdless of their origin.
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Now, who'd like to borrow my forum crowbar next until Escapee comes back to justify his comment (although as other members have yet to justify their comments in threads they've started and instead tried to hijack this one, I suppose it's normal to say things and not back them up).
not for me though ;-)
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Re: Guilty x3

Most convicted paedos, child abductors, molestors, rapists, etc etc seem to be English, born and bred here, as are there parents. Is it fair to say that such evil vileness comes from England, something inherent in forthcoming english generations?

I think not, which is why the comment about Pakistan is unwarranted and to be frank an offensive to teh majority of Pakistanis living in the UK.
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Most convicted paedos, child abductors, molestors, rapists, etc etc seem to be English, born and bred here, as are there parents. Is it fair to say that such evil vileness comes from England, something inherent in forthcoming english generations?
When it's directed at those that committed the crimes and they are of English ancestry, yes, as that's where they came from
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Old 09-11-2006, 11:22   #38
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When it's directed at those that committed the crimes and they are of English ancestry, yes, as that's where they came from
Phew, lucky for my kids I'm from Glasgow, then - even they they are born in England.

If they do anything bad/evil, everyone can say about them "bloody Jocks, coming over/down here, stealing all our women/jobs/internet forums, with their different ways".
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Phew, lucky for my kids I'm from Glasgow, then - even they they are born in England.

If they do anything bad/evil, everyone can say about them "bloody Jocks, coming over/down here, stealing all our women/jobs/internet forums, with their different ways".
give the man a rep even though he forgot scrounging all our benefits and nicking all the irn bru
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Phew, lucky for my kids I'm from Glasgow, then - even they they are born in England.

If they do anything bad/evil, everyone can say about them "bloody Jocks, coming over/down here, stealing all our women/jobs/internet forums, with their different ways".
be grateful you don't come from sunderland if your place of residence or descent has any bearing on your character http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/6132140.stm ouch.
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be grateful you don't come from sunderland if your place of residence or descent has any bearing on your character http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/6132140.stm ouch.
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An agenda? Shirley not?

Although, if their ancestry is pakistani, then to say that the evil came from pakistan isn't untrue.
Just as I came all the way from Saxony through my ancestry to be here today, they came all the way from pakistan through their ancestry to get to where they are (facing life in prison).
Now, who'd like to borrow my forum crowbar next until Escapee comes back to justify his comment (although as other members have yet to justify their comments in threads they've started and instead tried to hijack this one, I suppose it's normal to say things and not back them up).
My comments stem from the number of terrorists in Pakistan, the number of would be/dead and captured terrorists with links to Pakistan, the Pakistani governments feeble attempts to put a stop to them, and of course not to mention (I know its not allowed) my personal experiences.

I believe Pakistan has a dislike for the west, and I believe their government are only assisting with a token gesture of capturing or killing terrorists because they are gaining a lot of free technology supplied by the west by staying on good terms. A lot of technology is being shipped to Pakistan to assist with their intelligence efforts, and you can bet they are not paying for it.
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My comments stem from the number of terrorists in Pakistan, the number of would be/dead and captured terrorists with links to Pakistan, the Pakistani governments feeble attempts to put a stop to them, and of course not to mention (I know its not allowed) my personal experiences.

I believe Pakistan has a dislike for the west, and I believe their government are only assisting with a token gesture of capturing or killing terrorists because they are gaining a lot of free technology supplied by the west by staying on good terms. A lot of technology is being shipped to Pakistan to assist with their intelligence efforts, and you can bet they are not paying for it.
They are paying for it
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6132582.stm
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My comments stem from the number of terrorists in Pakistan, the number of would be/dead and captured terrorists with links to Pakistan, the Pakistani governments feeble attempts to put a stop to them, and of course not to mention (I know its not allowed) my personal experiences.

I believe Pakistan has a dislike for the west, and I believe their government are only assisting with a token gesture of capturing or killing terrorists because they are gaining a lot of free technology supplied by the west by staying on good terms. A lot of technology is being shipped to Pakistan to assist with their intelligence efforts, and you can bet they are not paying for it.
if we accept what you say what precisely does that have to do with this case?
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