A little inside information by an Employee.

[jtwn]

I'm jumping on the bandwagon too!!! Jul-Sep 08 here. Not that I care anyway.

[themelon]

Originally Posted by popper

i think its reasonable to assume that by 2010 WiMax will be widespread if the industry has anything to do with it and hence that last mile will be covered, thats one of the reasons why i advocate wireless as standard in future stb's etc.

I think WiMax would need to come on quite considerably in the next 4 years for it to be used effectiveley for Broadband and Television, assuming they still use copper pairs for the telco side of things due to Bandwidth Limitations.

WiMax can currently be used for the ol' classic (up to) 100Mbs over 100 Miles, however again it is subject to distance limitations so if you actually live 100 Miles from the WiMax point you may only get 1mbs. And the WiMax Bandwidth is shared amonst a radio sector, so if there a lot of users in a paricular radio sector each will end up with a reduced bandwidth, so if there are 10 users each will only get 10Mb.

It needs to come a long quite a bit so it will be interesting to see how things go.

Ntl is possibly in a better position to offer this as they trialled Wireless Broadband a few years back, apparently it was pretty good but they decided not to take it forward.

Originally Posted by themelon

What about the last Mile for 21st Century Network?

I still have my 100 year old piece of speaker wire dangling (very loosely I might add) from a telephone pole. It along with many others round here is aniquated anddoesnt look to have been maintainined since the days of the ark. Are BT going to replace this and the rest of the antiquated equipment in the final mile?

I can't honestly see them laying/hanging ethernet to the home, or even a new twisted pair to every house in the UK.

Closest 21st CN Will come to the home is the exchange or maybe the street cabinets, but thats going to need 1980/90 Cable company road digging powers! Which is unlikley

All I hope is that the new technology is not as reliant on distance from the exchange and quality of cabling in the last mile, as I cant see how it will make much difference.

The BT Line in my old house was crap, BT refused to replace it unless I paid for it, so what has changed?

BT already have perfectly good equipment in the exchanges at present, Its the final mile that lets it down, and I can not see how this is going to change. Only houses in new build developments will have the full effect.

BT have yet to get ADSL right if you live more than 1 mile from the exchange, BT Said they would release VOD this summer, I am yet to see it working. BT Said they would install 4 ISDN Lines at my work 33 days ago and promised it within 10 but can not deliver due to technical issues.

BT persists in talking complete and utter B/S as always, I would be very pleasantly surprised to see any of the current suggestions working by 2010 let alon 21st CN

BT (Its good to talk (utter ****e that is)

You only have to read the posts i made about BT to see that they are the same bunch of incompetent idiots that they where 8 years ago when i had my last run in with them. Nothing as changed including the Noah's Ark technology and "i like this " Speaker wire connection . BT have to totaly change the way they connect to the customer before they will get any better speeds.

I am willing to place a bet here. Cable will out perform BT for a very long time when it comes to Broadband. There i have said it.

Where cable falls over and is at the moment is the reliance on proxy servers which is making them look crap at the moment.

[FCC]

Originally Posted by Bill C

Where cable falls over and is at the moment is the reliance on proxy servers which is making them look crap at the moment.

Oversubscribed ubrs? congested network?

Originally Posted by FCC

Oversubscribed ubrs? congested network?

Indeed they do too. However my main concern at the moment is the Proxy servers. They are the spawn of the devil as far as i am concerned.

[Chrysalis]

wireless isnt really a future proof technology, maybe useful for low populated areas but doesnt have the capacity for high speed applications and would it be subject to interfence?

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Originally Posted by Bill C

You only have to read the posts i made about BT to see that they are the same bunch of incompetent idiots that they where 8 years ago when i had my last run in with them. Nothing as changed including the Noah's Ark technology and "i like this " Speaker wire connection . BT have to totaly change the way they connect to the customer before they will get any better speeds.

I am willing to place a bet here. Cable will out perform BT for a very long time when it comes to Broadband. There i have said it.

Where cable falls over and is at the moment is the reliance on proxy servers which is making them look crap at the moment.

would like to argue with you but I cant

[etccarmageddon]

I've been doing a lot of proxy dancing over the last few months and agree it's a joke.

Originally Posted by Creative

The 1.8T Audi TT and the Skoda Octavia VRS have the same engine.

Thanks for that creative its saved me some money then with prior knowledge

[Locky]

i have to use proxys no problem at all useing ntl's also use em to beat the rapidshare download limit (80 min between file)

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by Womble

Yeah, but they maintain theirs, proactivley, we just firefight, but who knows?.. From what I've seen so far, TW seem to be more customer orientated, instead of the ntl way where they are treat subs like a hinderance!! So things may get better, we'll see

Maybe, but you loook at the outside of where I live, splitters just dangling in midair and you wonder. I'll post a picture if I am there in daylight to take it.

[themelon]

Originally Posted by SMHarman

Maybe, but you loook at the outside of where I live, splitters just dangling in midair and you wonder. I'll post a picture if I am there in daylight to take it.

Ummm and my victorian speaker wire, very loose!!

[pharrell]

ok, so a point has been proved - ntl.telewest will the market leader for a long times when it comes to bb.

[Shaun]

I guess that depends on where you live. Here I couldn't keep a connection for more than a few min before it was dropped. Hardy market leader.

[Scarlett]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

seems I was wrong about 21cn the docs rlsed by BT have no mention of fibre in the local loops meaning less then half will see anything above 8mbit on adsl2+. Its a possibility for sure now in 2011 when bt are still finishing of 21cn they still relying on copper local loops. My area isnt getting 21cn until Q2 2010.

21CN is all about the backbone rather then the outlying reaches of the network. The idea AFAIK is to have a big network that you will then plug into to make calls. The big differences are that once in, you will send your calls via whatever route is most efficent at the time rather than you dialling the number and making a dedicated connection (probably following the same route each time) It should also allow quicker time to market for new products and services.

[kibblerok]

Todays access all areas didn't make good reading with regards to the BB network and stability and other faults