School forces girls to wear head scarves - Page 3

**Chris** · 18-10-2006, 13:15

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Originally Posted by Jules

Not in the school across from me, they are excused Assembly and at the end of term being a C of E school the pupils attend church which they are also excused from

Which, when you think about it, is perfectly reasonable and in fact the only way to behave (even if it weren't law). Can you imagine the outcry if a Muslim or a Jew was forced to go to a Church service and sing about Jesus being the Son of God and the Messiah? The very idea is daft. Pity the board of governors at this new school aren't big enough to say likewise about their scarves-for-all rule.

**Hugh** · 18-10-2006, 13:21

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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

My primary school was Church Of England, and I'd say just in our year the percentage of muslim pupils was a minimum 15-20%. We went to church every week, sang 'christian' songs in assembly, partcipated in harvest and productions of Navity plays at xmas, all without complaint from either the pupils or the parents.

This school in question is a muslim faith school with rules regarding uniform. A non muslim choosing to attend the school for whatever reason will be aware of these rules at time of application.

I was reading something recently about how a lot of non muslims wish to send their children to muslim schools because of the success of students in the national curriculum subjects. Well if you want to do that fair play, but while your their you should be subject to the same rules regarding uniform.

Both my children attended a CofE junior school, which had children of other faiths (Hindu, Sikh, Muslim, Catholics) - these children (via their parents) were allowed the option of not attending CofE faith-based events - some did, some didn't.

eddie00001 · 18-10-2006, 13:24

I think though that we should go the way of France and state schools should be secular - no clothing of a religious nature allowed, no religious services etc - this should even be extended to government bodies ie civil service, police etc

hatedbythemail · 18-10-2006, 13:39

www.yourschooluniform.com/acatalog/stjohnandstjames_Primary_School.html

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http://www.yourschooluniform.com/aca...on_school.html

**Chris** · 18-10-2006, 13:44

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Originally Posted by hatedbythemail

www.yourschooluniform.com/acatalog/stjohnandstjames_Primary_School.html

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http://www.yourschooluniform.com/aca...on_school.html

http://www.culttelly.co.uk/content/top100/20_002.jpg

eddie00001 · 18-10-2006, 13:44

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Originally Posted by hatedbythemail

www.yourschooluniform.com/acatalog/stjohnandstjames_Primary_School.html

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http://www.yourschooluniform.com/aca...on_school.html

Sorry, I might be missing something there, but why the links. They just appear to be two schools and the uniform policy, which seems pretty standard.

Jules · 18-10-2006, 13:58

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Originally Posted by Chris T

http://www.culttelly.co.uk/content/top100/20_002.jpg

Chris you are a little too old to be wearing school uniform!! lol

hatedbythemail · 18-10-2006, 13:59

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Originally Posted by eddie00001

Sorry, I might be missing something there, but why the links. They just appear to be two schools and the uniform policy, which seems pretty standard.

uniforms with crosses?

SOSAGES · 18-10-2006, 14:01

something that always bothered me was allowing sikhs to ride motorbikes without a helmet.
WHY!!!??(maybe they changed this i dunno, but it still gets to me)
madness - u cant allow 1 branch of society to have different rules,
as for the head scarves at the school - only 5% of muslim women wear them and they dont have to its not in err what ever the book is they read

from my understanding, schools should have uniforms but if its not ur religion u should be able to not wear it if its not ur religion

and yes france do have the right idea i love them for that - they do what they want when they want and dont give a monkeys if your not french and white they aint happy about u

hatedbythemail · 18-10-2006, 14:01

for example this logo is on the uniform which has to be worn by all pupils

hatedbythemail · 18-10-2006, 14:02

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Originally Posted by Chris T

http://www.culttelly.co.uk/content/top100/20_002.jpg

which head you got on today catweazle ;-)

**Hugh** · 18-10-2006, 14:11

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Originally Posted by hatedbythemail

for example this logo is on the uniform which has to be worn by all pupils

mmmmm... all Christians (to the best of my recollection) recognise the cross as a sign of Christianity.

Not all Muslims recognise a head-scarf as "compulsory" - it is up to your own (or your family/neighbours) conscience/interpretation of "modesty".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/6059860.stm

Bit of a difference (imho)

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Originally Posted by SOSAGES

and yes france do have the right idea i love them for that - they do what they want when they want and dont give a monkeys if your not french and white they aint happy about u

Strange - I thought the French were quite keen on Thierry Henry and Patrick Viera (amongst others).

Russ · 18-10-2006, 14:15

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

mmmmm... all Christians (to the best of my recollection) recognise the cross as a sign of Christianity.

Not all regard it as compulsory, in fact to do so may stray close to idolatry worship. The cross symbol should not really be seen a neccessity to Christians however I understand that if a school chooses to have it as part of their symbol or logo then yes of course it should be worn by all pupils.

hatedbythemail · 18-10-2006, 14:17

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

mmmmm... all Christians (to the best of my recollection) recognise the cross as a sign of Christianity.

Not all Muslims recognise a head-scarf as "compulsory" - it is up to your own (or your family/neighbours) conscience/interpretation of "modesty".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/6059860.stm

Bit of a difference (imho)

ok, if not islamic then its simply part of the uniform. if islamic, whats the difference compared to uniforms bearing crosses?

**Hugh** · 18-10-2006, 14:18

<my bad> for not being clear - more about the cross being recognised as a symbol of faith, whilst the head-scarf is an interpretation (imo) of modesty, which is regarded as a requirement in the Q'uran.