Is there an NTL PVR?

[lostandconfused]

ive only got the one stb at the mo, im planning on saying i want another one for a different room, when the engineer comes out get him to put it where it is now, keep the old one under the stairs and a couple of days later decide i dont want the extra one anymore

[Bob]

I would imagine the difference with On Demand will be the rebranding to Teleport - if that's the way things are going...

[Downloads]

I agree, this is a load of crap.

As someone else pointed out, if you take Sports and or Movies with Sky, then you don't have to pay £10 a month. £10 a month indefinitely to record some programs is expensive imo.

Another £10 a month is taking the preverbial.

£15.00 Multiroom
£37.50 Family pack + Sport
£10.00 TVDrive
£62.50 Total

I can get all that for £47.00 a month with Sky

Thats on top of a whopping £35.00 for 10meg Broadband

*sighs*

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by gruff_rhodes

I agree, this is a load of crap.

As someone else pointed out, if you take Sports and or Movies with Sky, then you don't have to pay £10 a month. £10 a month indefinitely to record some programs is expensive imo.

Another £10 a month is taking the preverbial.

£15.00 Multiroom
£37.50 Family pack + Sport
£10.00 TVDrive
£62.50 Total

I can get all that for £47.00 a month with Sky

Thats on top of a whopping £35.00 for 10meg Broadband

*sighs*

Aye but NTL don't charge you up front for the box like sky do with their HD box.

[relegationmateri]

Originally Posted by DarthYoda

Aye but NTL don't charge you up front for the box like sky do with their HD box.

Are you likely to have digital for more than three years?

Sky
£99 up front.
£0x36 = £0
£99+£0=Ãà ¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚£99

NTL
£0 up front. (whoop de f'ing doo)
£10x36=£360

and every month you have it on ntl, the price difference goes up and up and up and up.. The only way you'd be better off with NTL would be if you cancelled your contract after 9 months.

I rest my case.

[lostandconfused]

im not really sure how the whole sky thing works, but say your box stoped working after 2 years will they come and fix it or replace it for free?
the reason i asked was my parents box packed in and i think sky wanted to charge them for a new box

Originally Posted by lostandconfused

im not really sure how the whole sky thing works, but say your box stoped working after 2 years will they come and fix it or replace it for free?
the reason i asked was my parents box packed in and i think sky wanted to charge them for a new box

Sky give you the box - it belongs to you. In the first 12 months breakdowns are covered by the warranty but after that it's your problem, same as if your TV broke down. I have heard of Sky 'helping' with the cost of a replacement if you suggest to their retentions dept that you're going to leave $ky because you can't afford a new box though.

Originally Posted by relegationmateri

Are you likely to have digital for more than three years?

Sky
£99 up front.
£0x36 = £0
£99+£0=Ãà ¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚£99

NTL
£0 up front. (whoop de f'ing doo)
£10x36=£360

and every month you have it on ntl, the price difference goes up and up and up and up.. The only way you'd be better off with NTL would be if you cancelled your contract after 9 months.

I rest my case.

Dam good point. I had not looked at it that why. At the moment i don't pay £10.00 because i have the full package. So what you are saying is i would have to pay £10.00 a month more than i pay now for the same level of service.

Just looked on ebay and could get a second hand Sky+ box for £75.00 if mine broke and needed replacing.

Add to this the fact that NTL are not in my good books at the moment because i have NTL Slowband Not NTL Broadband and you can see why :-

I will not be changing over then

[Downloads]

Originally Posted by Bill C

Dam good point. I had not looked at it that why. At the moment i don't pay £10.00 because i have the full package. So what you are saying is i would have to pay £10.00 a month more than i pay now for the same level of service.

Just looked on ebay and could get a second hand Sky+ box for £75.00 if mine broke and needed replacing.

Add to this the fact that NTL are not in my good books at the moment because i have NTL Slowband Not NTL Broadband and you can see why :-

I will not be changing over then

Thats's exactly what i'm saying.
Also, there is a charge with NTL. £75.00 to get this box because i already have 2 STBs in my house. Wonderful.

Edit: Sorry can someone also confirm how i have interpreted this article too. It says you can avoid the £75.00 charge by connecting it to a second TV in your house and by taking out an extra box charge of £5. Does that mean new people to multiroom will get multiroom for £5 while i pay £15 for multiroom with 2 old STBs??

[Stephen]

I was refering to the Sky+ HD as you have to pay £299, unless they have reduced the price of it.

Originally Posted by gruff_rhodes

Thats's exactly what i'm saying.
Also, there is a charge with NTL. £75.00 to get this box because i already have 2 STBs in my house. Wonderful.

Edit: Sorry can someone also confirm how i have interpreted this article too. It says you can avoid the £75.00 charge by connecting it to a second TV in your house and by taking out an extra box charge of £5. Does that mean new people to multiroom will get multiroom for £5 while i pay £15 for multiroom with 2 old STBs??

I suspect that the NTL computer will simply see your house with one TVDrive, one STB, then waive the £75 and continue charging you £5 for the second box. I think the point of the £75/free thing is to achieve a similar package to Sky. They only install for free if you're taking multiroom.

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Originally Posted by DarthYoda

I was refering to the Sky+ HD as you have to pay £299, unless they have reduced the price of it.

The basic Sky+ box is now £99.

[Downloads]

Originally Posted by Chris T

I suspect that the NTL computer will simply see your house with one TVDrive, one STB, then waive the £75 and continue charging you £5 for the second box. I think the point of the £75/free thing is to achieve a similar package to Sky. They only install for free if you're taking multiroom.
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The basic Sky+ box is now £99.

Sorry Chris if i am being thick, but what would the £5 be for? A one off fee? A monthly fee? If it's a monthly fee, is it in addition to multiroom or instead of multiroom? I guess i am just not getting that bit.

If they see i have 2 STBs already, you think they will send me a second one, waive the £75.00 charge, and collect the spare one i would then have?

I agree about the £99 though. I've been looking at Sky online and the Sky+ is as little £99 for a box you own. I don't mind paying the £75 though, it's the £10 every month forever that i object to.

Take an example over 3 years. You expect most electrical goods to last that period of time. Sky has a one off charge of £100. Then if you have sports and/or movies, you don't pay anything else. With NTL, there is potentially a £75 install fee and £360 of monthly fees for the 3 years.

Does nobody else think this doesn't make good economic sense???

Originally Posted by gruff_rhodes

Sorry Chris if i am being thick, but what would the £5 be for? A one off fee? A monthly fee? If it's a monthly fee, is it in addition to multiroom or instead of multiroom? I guess i am just not getting that bit.

If they see i have 2 STBs already, you think they will send me a second one, waive the £75.00 charge, and collect the spare one i would then have?

I agree about the £99 though. I've been looking at Sky online and the Sky+ is as little £99 for a box you own. I don't mind paying the £75 though, it's the £10 every month forever that i object to.

Take an example over 3 years. You expect most electrical goods to last that period of time. Sky has a one off charge of £100. Then if you have sports and/or movies, you don't pay anything else. With NTL, there is potentially a £75 install fee and £360 of monthly fees for the 3 years.

Does nobody else think this doesn't make good economic sense???

Gruff, I'm reading between the lines here but yes, I think if you already have 2 STBs they will bring a new TVDrive, take one STB away, and bill you the £5/month for their multiroom service rather than the £75 install charge for the TVDrive. From a marketing point of view it is clear their aim is twofold - to achieve parity with $ky, which means that multiroom subscribers have to get a free install, and to try to get people to sign up for multiroom at the same time as a TVDrive. It makes no sense for people getting multiroom for the first time to pay £5/month with free install, while existing customers pay £5/month plus £75 install.

For confirmation you will have to wait until this is official and public and then ask them. But if you're worried you could always cancel the second STB and re-order it later ....

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Chris T

I suspect that the NTL computer will simply see your house with one TVDrive, one STB, then waive the £75 and continue charging you £5 for the second box. I think the point of the £75/free thing is to achieve a similar package to Sky. They only install for free if you're taking multiroom.

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The basic Sky+ box is now £99.

Again I was refering to th Sky+ HD box as NTL TV Drive is HD enabled

[Lee]

Is there any technical info on this TvDrive yet? Or is it all still a secret?