Is there an NTL PVR?

Originally Posted by acoolwelshbloke

Let the children have their fun!

tad unfair, imo, they have an admin forum, if they didn't want us to see their discussion, we wouldn't

HDTV has to be part of the discussion, because, for some people I think it isn't going to be worth paying for a PVR package, if that kind of content isn't possible ???

e.g. at present there is no way any NTL/Telewest customer will get the HD sports feeds from sky - that doesn't concern me, because sport on TV is so much crepe, these days, but for some people it will be really important....

Originally Posted by Neil

And you think ntl aren't/won't be traffic shpaing do you.....

I have every reason to believe they will. But at the moment they are not. Just like vod is not in every region

[Tristan]

To say that VOD doesn't count as a feature because NTL haven't finished the roll-out yet is a fairly stupid argument. You may as well say that NTL doesn't count as offering digital TV, because there are some parts of Leicester and London that are still analogue only. Or that VOD will never count as a feature because old Videotron networks don't have the return path to support it.

You know very well that cable rollouts are staggered because equipment needs to be installed in every headend, rather than just once at the headquarters. So I ask you, what's better: rolling the product out to customers as and when it's ready, or waiting however long it takes for the entire network to be ready before switching it on? If you ask me, or NTL, or pretty much everyone else, they'd go for the former.

Futhermore, I think we should have a quick look at this statement:

Originally Posted by Neil

Hmmm...Telewest don't offer what I would call an HD service, AFAIK it's a only couple of channels as Sky are holding on to all of theirs (Sports/Movies etc)

Basically, you won't consider Telewest's HD service adequate until they have Sky Sports HD and Sky Movies HD -- and you acknowledge that Sky are holding on to these. So you require from NTL/Telewest something they have absolutely no control over. You don't think you're perhaps setting the bar a little high?

Lastly, VOD is available everywhere the PVR is available (which means, Telewest areas). Therefore, even by your definition, it's reasonable to consider VOD as a part of the PVR package, yes? So, um, where's Sky's equivalent?

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by Neil

It would rival/outshine Sky's if it was available everywhere like Sky is

Did Troll-boy really say that?

Originally Posted by spiderplant

Did Troll-boy really say that?

[Starby]

Blimey - you lot could start a fight in an empty bar. Anyway thanks to your somewhat tangential feedback I think I am looking forward to seeing what NTL offer going forward by way of PVRs. Does anyone have an informed guess when this is going to happen or is it still hearsay at this stage?

[Sunglasses Ron]

Originally Posted by Starby

Blimey - you lot could start a fight in an empty bar. Anyway thanks to your somewhat tangential feedback I think I am looking forward to seeing what NTL offer going forward by way of PVRs. Does anyone have an informed guess when this is going to happen or is it still hearsay at this stage?

Q4 2006-Q1 2007 as far as I know. Apparently they won't be broadcasting HD until mid 2007.

[Nedkelly]

S ome aeras are going to have Hd soon to try As they would like to start rolling it out for xmas

[coolea96]

unless NTL upgrade the Programme Guide to go beyond 3 days and add in "Record a Series" then what point is having a PVR .. given the bandwidth available down the cable ( I know some technical guru will correct me on this assumption. ) but if they dont do it its just going to be an overrated freeview clone..

[Tristan]

They will do both of those things.

Originally Posted by coolea96

unless NTL upgrade the Programme Guide to go beyond 3 days and add in "Record a Series" then what point is having a PVR .. given the bandwidth available down the cable ( I know some technical guru will correct me on this assumption. ) but if they dont do it its just going to be an overrated freeview clone..

The three-day restriction is in place as older NTL boxes can't handle a full week of data. There's no reason to think the brand new PVR box won't be sufficiently powerful to handle a full week's EPG.

I agree it is frustrating though, when I first got NTL digital, it did have a week of programming (not that you could browse it easily - it took an age to load data for a week ahead). Then one mornign I switched it on and it was gone.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Chris T

The three-day restriction is in place as older NTL boxes can't handle a full week of data. There's no reason to think the brand new PVR box won't be sufficiently powerful to handle a full week's EPG.

I agree it is frustrating though, when I first got NTL digital, it did have a week of programming (not that you could browse it easily - it took an age to load data for a week ahead). Then one mornign I switched it on and it was gone.

TBH, I don't personally think a week is enough. Tivo has it just about right (for most channels, Tivo holds up to a month's worth of data, but a minimum of two weeks).

[ntl.wotcha]

Originally Posted by Nedkelly

S ome aeras are going to have Hd soon to try As they would like to start rolling it out for xmas

I really wish they would do this in no VOD areas to give us a bit of loving.

Waltham Forrest VOD "Summer 2006" Yeah right.

[jem]

Waltham Forrest VOD "Summer 2006" Yeah right.

Be fair, they still have exactly two weeks to go!
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No I don't believe it either.

[uno]

The service tech I had out this week to look at my set top box problems said that some NTL customers may be able to get HD before Christmas and for all VOD enabled regions to be HD ready by end of Jan 07. He advised that final testing is taking place in Glasgow at Present and that certain regions had also got testers trialling it he thought there was about 100 in my area Leicestershire and that all trialists at present have to connect via the headend and not hub sites which rules me out.