A Little Something From IRC

[Ignition]

<Xipetotec> I'm from the Netherlands, I've been comming to this chan a couple of times to get some info. on
decent ISP's in the UK ;-)
<Xipetotec> I chose plusnet, and boy is ADSL expensive :-)
<Xipetotec> Yeah, as I said I am waiting for BT to hook me up, takes 2 weeks according to their site.
<Ignition> Xipetotec
<Ignition> what service did you have in nl ?
<Xipetotec> XS4all 8mbit
<Xipetotec> 25 euro's per month ;-)
<Xipetotec> unlimited contentuation 1:12 ;-) <addition - no cap, 12:1 contention>
<Ignition> lolol
<Ignition> unlimited 8mbit 12:1 contention for 15 quid a month
<Igniton> gotta love it
<Xipetotec> Upload 4 mbit, I am already hating it. it's insanly expensive and you get <censored>.
<Ignition> haha welcome to teh united kingdom
<Xipetotec> But really BT really should lower their prices they can easily offer 8mbit over crappy coper wire.
<demon> if in a telewest area, you can get 4mbit / 384k for ÃÃâ€*Չہ ¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚£50/month :p
<demon> better than nothing
<Xipetotec> 50 ?
<Xipetotec> you can 16 mbit for that
<Xipetotec> in poland!

[etccarmageddon]

it's a shame ADSL in this country will never be able to match those speeds - you can only get 1mb or 2mb if you're fairly close to the exchange.

Originally Posted by Ignition

<Xipetotec> you can 16 mbit for that
<Xipetotec> in poland!

You know i just love it when they say its cheaper in this country or that country. So why cannot "insert isp here" do it for that price. Sorry but i dont live there i live here my isp is in this country not in another.

[punky]

That is so depressing what that Dutch guy said... We are supposed to be one of the most powerful and advanced nations on earth, but we get beaten by second world countries on broadband, trains, and God knows what else.

<Xipetotec> you can 16 mbit for that
<Xipetotec> in poland!

Yes but when you can only earn £1/hr Poland it comes out very expensive. You cant just compare prices from one country to another

Originally Posted by punky

That is so depressing what that Dutch guy said... We are supposed to be one of the most powerful and advanced nations on earth, but we get beaten by second world countries on broadband, trains, and God knows what else.

Agreed!

Originally Posted by punky

That is so depressing what that Dutch guy said... We are supposed to be one of the most powerful and advanced nations on earth, but we get beaten by second world countries on broadband, trains, and God knows what else.

But if you have higher wages then the services provided will cost more to pay for the higher wages.

If salaries were reduced by a factor of 10 then the services in this country could be reduced in price by a factor of 10 and then we would be the offshore service providing country! However it would be very expensive to import stuff and as we make almost nothing in this country we wouldnt survive.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by punky

That is so depressing what that Dutch guy said... We are supposed to be one of the most powerful and advanced nations on earth, but we get beaten by second world countries on broadband, trains, and God knows what else.

Actually I am sure I read somewhere that in terms of Broadband facilities, we are average..

[punky]

Originally Posted by gary_580

Yes but when you can only earn £1/hr Poland it comes out very expensive. You cant just compare prices from one country to another

Yeah but that is for 16mbit connection. Divide the rest by 5, and you get a 3mbit connection for £/month.

I know it isn't that accurate to just comare prices directly, but this country is so damned expensive. When you go anywhere else (except Sweden) you notice it.

I didn't think Poland was that badly off anyway, they are in the EU.

[Ignition]

Originally Posted by Bill C

You know i just love it when they say its cheaper in this country or that country. So why cannot "insert isp here" do it for that price. Sorry but i dont live there i live here my isp is in this country not in another.

Yes, we may actually get to see speeds like this and good prices when certain companies get off their backsides and start pushing us. Until then what's the point?

[Halcyon]

Im moving to Poland then

Originally Posted by Ignition

Yes, we may actually get to see speeds like this and good prices when certain companies get off their backsides and start pushing us. Until then what's the point?

And there is the answer. When certain large companys can match us or even exceed what we can offer there might be some more movement upwards. I dont want the faster speed so i can download more, i just want to be able to download the file i need faster. I dont like to wait

[Ignition]

Yup, really Ofcom don't just set BT's prices, they set ntl's as well. ntl aren't a registered charity and will charge as much as they can for their products while getting a good user base and profitability.
To be honest I think Ofcom are doing a wonderful job of protecting business interests but a banal one of improving customer experience by hamstringing BT as much as they are and forcing them to charge more for less than they could.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Ignition

I think Ofcom are doing a wonderful job of protecting business interests but a banal one of improving customer experience by hamstringing BT as much as they are and forcing them to charge more for less than they could.

Come on, I am sure that if BT really want to offer improved services for less, I am sure Ofcom will not object..