03-11-2004, 18:36
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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Originally Posted by Siuko
300K 1MB †“ £17.99. (5GB* usage) + £5 for unlimited usage
750K 2MB †“ £24.99. (30GB* usage) + £7.50 for unlimited usage
1.5MB 3MB †“ £37.99. (40GB* usage) + £10 for unlimited usage

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That makes a lot of sense to me and I'd go for the 2Mb with the extra £7.50
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03-11-2004, 18:40
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#167
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Re: Will you change tier with extra speed?
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Originally Posted by madcap
What he's trying to say is that 750 is fine for his needs but he's going to have to upgrade to a speed he does not need (and pay £25) just to keep the Cap that he currently has, so in that sense he's making perfect sense (to me at any rate)
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He's on Telewest so maybe a tad jealous.
Anyone that is on 750k and stays on the middle tier which will become 2Mb because they want more than 5 gig a month will still pay exactly the same as they were doing but will get some things done faster.
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03-11-2004, 18:43
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Re: More ntl speed changes
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Originally Posted by SMHarman
So they will sting us all (me in this example) for a £25 fee to take us off the 1.5Mb and move us to the 3Mb? New customers will automatically get the 3Mb? Nice 
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Originally Posted by monkeybreath
So if ntl are "stinging" existing customers by intending to charge an upgrade fee, could someone please provide me a link that says they are not going to charge a similar fee to new customers? I have read the whole pdf and it mentions nothing about how much new customers will be charged in one of fees.
Currently ntl charge a £75 installation fee- but this is waived at the moment- so what is to say that they won't stop waiving this fee when the new speeds are introduced? I can find nothing to clarify this point...............
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we now know from that chetnet news release that the new super speeds include free installation.
"Prices include free installation, free cable modem and free activation."
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03-11-2004, 18:43
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Re: Will you change tier with extra speed?
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Originally Posted by ianathuth
He's on Telewest so maybe a tad jealous.
Anyone that is on 750k and stays on the middle tier which will become 2Mb because they want more than 5 gig a month will still pay exactly the same as they were doing but will get some things done faster.
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At a one-off cost of £25...
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03-11-2004, 18:43
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
I'm on NTL ianathuth.
The thing is, I don't need it to go any faster, I'm very happy with 750k. But I now have to pay £25 to retain the same usage restriction that I currently have. Can't you see that for some people this change means paying £25 to stay the same as we don't want or need the increased bandwidth.
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03-11-2004, 18:45
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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Originally Posted by Mick
To be honest, I am pleased at the news - My once 512K priced at £24.99 some 3/4 years ago went from 512K to 600K at no cost - then it went from 600K to 750K at no cost and now with this news its being significantly increased (More than doubled) to 2MB and still for £24.99 per month. I will happily pay £25 admin fee for this. Small price to pay for such a huge difference IMHO.
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The question is if your happy with 750K and havent gone for 1.5M then why upgrade?
Its like having a fast car, if you cant drive it that fast whats the point in having it?
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03-11-2004, 18:46
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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Originally Posted by gary_580
The question is if your happy with 750K and havent gone for 1.5M then why upgrade?
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So that you don't go down to 5gb a month cap.
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03-11-2004, 18:51
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
Maybe we should wait and see what NTL have to say about "caps" and whether the £25 admin fee is just to enable you to get the upgrade early.
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03-11-2004, 18:53
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
You are getting over double the speed with the same cap for a one off charge of £25 what is you problem? Stop moaning about nothing.
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03-11-2004, 18:57
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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Originally Posted by Nor
So that you don't go down to 5gb a month cap.
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im assuming that if you dont pay the £25 you dont get altered speed or cap
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03-11-2004, 18:59
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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Originally Posted by Nor
I'm on NTL ianathuth.
The thing is, I don't need it to go any faster, I'm very happy with 750k. But I now have to pay £25 to retain the same usage restriction that I currently have. Can't you see that for some people the extra bandwidth isn't worth paying £25 for ?
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Nor you have said previously in this thread that you do not nowhere near download 1GB per day - so if this is the case and for many others in a similar situation like you, when the speeds are rolled out - just carry on with what your doing now, its just you will get things done online much quicker.
At the end of the day if you do not want to change or upgrade then the simple option it seems - is to do nothing. These speed increases are not being forced on people and existing customers do not have to pay the £25 admin fee if they do not want to upgrade.
I for one though am happy with these changes, 512K was priced £24.99 when I got BB 3/4 years ago and In the 1st quarter of 2005 I can get 2MB, almost as four times as fast for the same price. That's not bad for a company, who emerged from Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection not that long ago.
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03-11-2004, 19:07
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
If they increase the speed, keep the price competitive, keep the cap as a threat rather than as a rule, how can anyone be upset.
Even if the 3meg isnt for everyone, its a poke in the eye for most other isp's and being able to compete by having one of the fastest speeds available in the uk will not hurt ntl's image.
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03-11-2004, 19:16
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
When i saw the speeds my jaw dropped, then i saw the caps and my heart sank. I hope, badly, that the caps are enforced like they are now (ie not enforced  ).
If thats the case, ntl must be the best bb provider in the country.
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03-11-2004, 19:18
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
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Originally Posted by Mick
Nor you have said previously in this thread that you do not nowhere near download 1GB per day - so if this is the case and for many others in a similar situation like you, when the speeds are rolled out - just carry on with what your doing now, its just you will get things done online much quicker.
At the end of the day if you do not want to change or upgrade then the simple option it seems - is to do nothing. These speed increases are not being forced on people and existing customers do not have to pay the £25 admin fee if they do not want to upgrade.
I for one though am happy with these changes, 512K was priced £24.99 when I got BB 3/4 years ago and In the 1st quarter of 2005 I can get 2MB, almost as four times as fast for the same price. That's not bad for a company, who emerged from Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection not that long ago. 
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I understand what you're saying. Its not really possible to do nothing though. It'll cost me more to have 750k than it will cost people to have 1mb. I'll also be on a lower monthy cap than I am on currently. If I upgrade to the new packages in order to downgrade to 1mb it'll cost me £25 and I'll be on a 5gb a month usage restriction. If I upgrade to 2mb in order to keep the same usage restruction it'll cost me £25 to basically stay the same. I don't want to turn this into another lengthy cap debate, but thats more important to me really than any kind of e-p**** speed measurement.
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03-11-2004, 19:48
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Re: [Now Official] More ntl speed changes
this is awesome news, for me on 750kbit I will probably stay on the same 24.99 price but change to the 2mbit package. £25 is well worth it I see little to complain about there. Some questions tho, mick and I know there is no answers yet.
1 - Will upload speed be increased on 24.99 tier?
2 - How is the traffic enforcement going to work (same as now or strict limits with overage fee's)
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