2004 firework thread

Originally Posted by trebor

Ban them and be done with it. If you want a party on Nov 5 have one without fireworks or have your party at an organised display.

No.

Originally Posted by trebor

why the hell anybody would want something as dangerous as explosives around their family anyway is beyond me.

I assume you stay well away from cars etc, which are full of highly explosive petrol.

[etccarmageddon]

http://www.saferfireworks.com/statistics/uk2003.asp


the thing about fireworks is they are weapons in the hands of some people - at least with cars you can see it coming!

Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

where in there did I say everyone who buys fireworks is a yob? dont jump to conclusions.

You said it's madness selling them to the public "if lads want to blow things up they should join the army!" which seems to imply to me that you think everyone who buys fireworks is a lad who wants to blow things up. I'm apologise if that's not what you meant, but perhaps you should have been clearer in your statement.

Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

I dont know but Paul appears to be passionate about being allowed to do it.

Yes I am. Home fireworks displays are one of the few things I really enjoy doing each year and I get extremly fed up of the moaners classing people who enjoy them with the odd idiots who misuse them.

I would say though that there is more misuse than actual correct use. That's why fireworks are seen as a menace, because for four weeks before and couple of weeks after bonfire night, in the past - all its been is a big nuisance and when it becomes constant like that, its just one big irritation and the enjoyment has been lost because of this for most people.

[trebor]

Originally Posted by Paul M

No.
I assume you stay well away from cars etc, which are full of highly explosive petrol.

I assume you would be ok if people started shooting guns outside your house.

[Flubflow]

Fireworks are an extremely antisocial way of enjoying oneself.
One person's enjoyment is hundreds (or even thousands) of people's misery.

Originally Posted by Mick

I would say though that there is more misuse than actual correct use.

I wouldn't say that, and certainly not round here there isn't.

Anyway, I'm going to try leave this thread alone for now because this is just going to wind me right up - meaning I might get carried away and do something I shouldn't.

[etccarmageddon]

Originally Posted by Flubflow

Fireworks are an extremely antisocial way of enjoying oneself. One person's enjoyment is hundreds (or even thousands) of people's misery.

I think the problem is, if it was restricted to 1 specific day of the year ie. nov 5th then people like Paul could have their fun while the rest of us can live in peace for the rest of the year. That's how it was when I were a teenager - now it's open season from Sept onwards!

Originally Posted by trebor

I assume you would be ok if people started shooting guns outside your house.

I was going to make the point before that we dont sell guns in this country for recreational use (shooting at tin cans etc) cos we know they open to abuse. The same should go for fireworks.

I can see where Paul is coming from, here, especially as, like Etc. says, it is restricted to the one night of the year. I am quite prepared to accept that Paul is the kind of guy to conduct his home display in the utmost safety.

Unfortunately, the trend over the last few years has seen more & more powerful fireworks being available for sale over an extended period. This has meant that at this time of year, for hours on end, for weeks at a time, the ground shaking explosions have terrified animals & upset people.

I like fireworks, I have fond memories of our own 'displays' in the back yard with a pack of 'Brocks' - but the selfishness of a minority has spoilt that ideal, hence the current restrictions.

[paulyoung666]

surprisingly enough it has been quiet around here so far , it is even more amazing considering 2 fireworks shops have oopened up within a quarter of a mile from here , why the council felt the need to all two so close to each other is beyond me

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

surprisingly enough it has been quiet around here so far , it is even more amazing considering 2 fireworks shops have oopened up within a quarter of a mile from here , why the council felt the need to all two so close to each other is beyond me

Come to think of it I haven't seen ANY fireworks on sale in sunny Sandy this year - maybe that's why it's so quiet on a night

My missus is taking out boy up to the local (scout) big firework display - the site where I work is situated next to where it's being held - so I'm getting a free show at work that night.

[Flubflow]

Also, I think you only have to see or experience the horrific results of a firework accident just once to see why they really should be banned outright. Too many people think it won't happen to them. You can reduce your risk significantly by following the rules but, as you'd expect with any chemical reaction in a man-made package, it is sometimes completely beyond your control and innocent people who have nothing to do with your party get very badly hurt.
When you send your kids to school and they do chemistry then, as you'd expect, even the most slighty reactive experiments require goggles etc and/or a fume cupboard yet we allow people to buy and set off explosive chemicals a few yards away in the back garden with no real legal requirement for any protection whatsoever.
The widespread availabilty of dodgy chav fireworks make the situation worse.

[Flubflow]

Originally Posted by Paul M

I wouldn't say that, and certainly not round here there isn't.

Anyway, I'm going to try leave this thread alone for now because this is just going to wind me right up - meaning I might get carried away and do something I shouldn't.

Oh go on you chicken. You know you really want to. .

Not a peep from any of the usual antisocial mob round here.I wonder why?They have never struck me as the sort that would OBEY any rules let alone new ones.

I think it's a plot of some sort.

[daxx]

just the odd bang in the distance, probably in the village, but nothing local apart from that massive clap of thunder or two yesterday (Thursday afternoon). I have noticed an increased police prescence [sp] in the early evening, maybe something to do with it.

The local lads in blue are always out late on for the drunks so maybe the bosses have stopped them playing scrabble in the canteen before they go out on drunk patrol and sent them out to catch any chav/ettes being naught with firewqorks.