have you had religious experiances

[Lord Nikon]

Originally posted by KingPhoenix

I,e., if he has so much power why cant he stop evil? and war?????

Simple to answer that one.

As humans, if you read the bible etc you find that we were given the freedom to choose the paths our lives take, If God was to intervene and put an end to war, then he would be removing that choice from us. It is up to humanity as a whole to evolve and develope beyond the point where war exists. And it must be our choice to do so.

[Russ]

Originally posted by Lord Nikon

Now, I am not saying that this is the truth, as we have no way to say for certain, I am however saying that as accounts are passed down through the millenia that those accounts, in the hands of men and women who themselves may be corrupt, that those could be changed. It is all down to what each of us, as individuals believe.

So what about such documents as Caeser's diaries which make references to Jesus, whilst having no real connection with the Bible?

And actually I'm willing to believe there may be life on other planets. I wouldn't want to meet them but it's possible that because it's not mentioned in the Bible doesnt mean they're not there, after all, God created the heavens and the earth.

[Lord Nikon]

Russ, this page is also interesting...

http://www.20kweb.com/weird_stuff/bi...o_gallery.html

It shows depictions throughout history of what could be termed UFOs appearing in pictures within bibles produced at that time.
a 1710 painting of John the baptist with a UFO above him, a 1501 botticeli showing a saucer above the stable, etc etc

Again, it doesn't detract from the content of the bible, but would seem to lend a visual slant on the possibility of advanced technology being in play more than miracles.

Having said that though Russ, there is one miracle which cannot be explained through Technology, and that is the miracle of life.

Congratulations on the daughter

[Russ]

Originally posted by Lord Nikon
Having said that though Russ, there is one miracle which cannot be explained through Technology, and that is the miracle of life.

Oh don't worry, I'm sure some idiot will have a try of that....

I'm off to bed. Behave people.

[Stuart]

Originally posted by Russ D
...aaaaand how many times have I answered that tonight????

Russ, you seem to get asked that question regularly in these sorts of threads..

[Stuart]

Originally posted by Russ D
Oh don't worry, I'm sure some idiot will have a try of that....

It may have already happened to a small degree.

A scientist has built a robot with of dish a neurons from a rat brain for a brain..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3096973.stm

[Salu]

Originally posted by TheBig1
But why would anyone believe in something they cannot see or touch

Do you believe in air?

Russ, I just caught up on this thread, and Noticed somehting that again has sparked my curiosity.
Firstly can I apologise in advance because I dont mean to keep putting you on the spot like this......but.

You say our life here isnt actually ours, its Gods.
But thats according to your religion, what about people of differing religions that dont beleive in christendoms version of God? Are their lives still owned by your God, or are they indeed as I like ot think, their own lives......perhaps if they are religious watched over and guided by their deity?

Dont get me wrong I uderstand that a lot of religions follow the same GOD, but some have several gods, and some worshipped deities long before Christ announced he was the son of the one all powerfull God that demanded people worshipped no other "false" god......therefor belittling other older religions.

[Russ]

Originally posted by timewarrior2001
You say our life here isnt actually ours, its Gods.
But thats according to your religion, what about people of differing religions that dont beleive in christendoms version of God? Are their lives still owned by your God, or are they indeed as I like ot think, their own lives......perhaps if they are religious watched over and guided by their deity?

Dont get me wrong I uderstand that a lot of religions follow the same GOD, but some have several gods, and some worshipped deities long before Christ announced he was the son of the one all powerfull God that demanded people worshipped no other "false" god......therefor belittling other older religions.

No need to apologise!!

Satan was put on the earth to be given the opportunity to test us. God loves it when we choose Him but especially when confronted by a choice, and that's where the evil one comes in. Satan's plan is to pull us away from God's plan by any means neccessary and if that includes setting up another religion then so be it. It's perfectly feasible that these other religions do a LOT of good work for charity and are otherwise very nice people, but due to their nature of their beliefs they will never give their lives to God which ultimately is what Satan wants.

[nogger]

Originally posted by Russ D
(sigh) Here we go again.......

All these scientists have done IMO is find the ways through the brain that God uses to 'speak' to us....

You see. You just can't derail a true believer.

As some philosopher once said, you can't prove, or disprove, the existance of God by logic.

[nogger]

Originally posted by Russ D
The term BS is IMO quite offensive. Why? because as a moderator I have been given the authority on here to decide this sort of thing.

Just like God. Omnipotent.

[Russ]

Oh am I now?? Well how did I manage to father a baby then eh???

Ohhhh, you said omnipotent....my bad...

[nogger]

Indeed. Have more faith in your faith. (Even though I think you're mistaken. Which is my perogative, I believe.)

[Russ]

Have more faith?!? I don't think I could get any more

[kronas]

Originally posted by Russ D
Have more faith?!? I don't think I could get any more

IMO russ can believe what he wants even though most of us know hes outrightly wrong :p