have you had religious experiances

[Russ]

Originally posted by kronas
i am under the guidelines when did i say i wouldnt respect them

im just expressing my opinion but it seems to me your restricting this just because its religion ?

its not a cheap 'pop' because its religion its my opinion of what i think on a subject not everyone agrees with it

please point to where i have gone past the 'line' in your guidelines

You are free to disagree with ANYONE on this site but it's your choice of wording which is inappropriate. It's nothing to do with the subject matter, it's the way you have chosen to use the offensive expression 'BS' rather than a more mature example of "I just don't believe in all that".

[imback]

Originally posted by Russ D

Governments would rather spend millions on weapons than feed it's own children, again this status quo would be of Lucifer.

See but again then just looks tome like God being cruel and punishing people to frighten others in belief. I could not worship something so vengfull, or ful of hate.

[kronas]

Originally posted by Russ D
You are free to disagree with ANYONE on this site but it's your choice of wording which is inappropriate. It's nothing to do with the subject matter, it's the way you have chosen to use the offensive expression 'BS' rather than a more mature example of "I just don't believe in all that".

ok but at the time its how i felt still do id rather not use the same words over and over again it would get bit repetative right so i express myself in diffarent ways

case closed sorry for the off topic mods

[Russ]

Originally posted by imback
See but again then just looks tome like God being cruel and punishing people to frighten others in belief. I could not worship something so vengfull, or ful of hate.

You're missing the point. The people who could be spending the money on their children have the opportunity to do so by God. But under the rules of 'free will', satan can step in and tempt them as much as he wants. Again under 'free will' they choose to listen to the evil one.

[kronas]

Originally posted by Russ D
OK, you'd need to look at the circumstances of how that child came to be where it was. In your example in Africa it's due to weather conditions. Satan was given limited power over the weather so he'd be involved in that, plus the 'alleged' corruption in those areas which lead people to spend government money elsewhere rather than on looking after it's people.

Governments would rather spend millions on weapons than feed it's own children, again this status quo would be of Lucifer.

ok so why doesent god stop all the corruption hunger slaughter of inoccent lives is he testing 'them' will bring them back in a another life/form they were destined to have it happen ?

[Russ]

Originally posted by kronas
ok but at the time its how i felt still do id rather not use the same words over and over again it would get bit repetative right so i express myself in diffarent ways

case closed sorry for the off topic mods

There are times when I'd like to use certain words to describe certain users of this forum but out of politeness and desire to stick to forum rules, I choose not to.

Let's see you do the same please.

[Ramrod]

quote:
Maybe If God cared to tell us what actually happens after we die, I might worship him!..

Seriousley though, im not spending my time worshipping someone, when as far as I can see, im not gonna gain anything from it. Sorry for being shallow


No problem, that's between you and Him.

I'm not religious but that is a good answer

[Russ]

Originally posted by kronas
ok so why doesent god stop all the corruption hunger slaughter of inoccent lives is he testing 'them' will bring them back in a another life/form they were destined to have it happen ?

It's because the people who are causing the 'corruption hunger slaughter' are preferring to listen to satan rather than God.

I'm not religious but that is a good answer

I thank you

[imback]

Originally posted by Russ D
You're missing the point. The people who could be spending the money on their children have the opportunity to do so by God. But under the rules of 'free will', satan can step in and tempt them as much as he wants. Again under 'free will' they choose to listen to the evil one.

But to teach us a lesson it is OK to let others suffer even though they have no power to make a difference? Seems cruel to me. Why not let the "bad" ones have the life of hell.

[Russ]

Originally posted by imback
But to teach us a lesson it is OK to let others suffer even though they have no power to make a difference? Seems cruel to me. Why not let the "bad" ones have the life of hell.

What's not to say that the ones who suffered had a life of immeasurable happiness and love afterwards? And the 'bad' ones will have more than a life of hell - they'll have an eternity of it.

[kronas]

Originally posted by Russ D
It's because the people who are causing the 'corruption hunger slaughter' are preferring to listen to satan rather than God.

but why arent the innocent people being saved by god ?

[Russ]

Originally posted by kronas
but why arent the innocent people being saved by god ?

Who's to say that their life on earth isn't just a small fraction of their entire existence? Maybe by taking them away from this sinful earth He IS saving them?

[Stuart]

Originally posted by TheBig1
But why would anyone believe in something they cannot see or touch

You cannot see and touch some gases. Doesn't mean they don't exist.

As Kronas (I think) says, those people that follow religion are happy to have faith that God exists (in whatever form).

However, because I have posted this, it doesn't mean I believe in any sort of definable god.

I also believe that because I don't neccessarily believe in a God, it doesn't automatically follow that other people shouldn't as well. Not believing in God is right for me. It is not right for everyone..

Everyone is free to follow their own beliefs.

[Russ]

Originally posted by scastle
Everyone is free to follow their own beliefs.

Amen bruvvah!!!

[kronas]

Originally posted by scastle

Everyone is free to follow their own beliefs.

yep i agree but everyone is entitled to an opinion and should be allowed to express it...........

Originally posted by Russ D
Who's to say that their life on earth isn't just a small fraction of their entire existence? Maybe by taking them away from this sinful earth He IS saving them?

but what about the individual who wants peace and a normal life on earth dont they get a say ?