Browser usage for Mozilla

Richard M · 05-09-2004, 00:54

Browser usage for Mozilla (Mozilla Suite, Mozilla Firefox, Camino etc) has risen to a massive 14.9%!
This is not including Netscape 6 & 7 which also are based on the Mozilla Suite.

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=0...&tid=154&tid=1

That's what I call progress.

Caspar · 05-09-2004, 00:57

I own whichbrowser.com and .co.uk maybe I shd setup a browser website.... hmmmm

**Paul** · 05-09-2004, 00:59

Not according to all the monthly web stats I produce - is this in the US or something ?

Richard M · 05-09-2004, 01:02

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Originally Posted by Paul M

Not according to all the monthly web stats I produce - is this in the US or something ?

Yeah, mostly for the W3C network of sites (w3schools.com, w3.org etc).
Sure they are techy sites so may have fairly techy people who are likely to run Mozilla but many sites (us included) have seen massive increases over the last few months.

Halcyon · 05-09-2004, 01:17

Well I rate it 100%
No crashes at all and less spam and adverts, in fact no popups at all.

05-09-2004, 09:44

I'm just switching to FireFox now any way, since I prefer it to IE

Halcyon · 05-09-2004, 15:49

Good choice !

Gareth · 06-09-2004, 10:53

Firefox rocks. I'm a convert! I only keep IE cause of the few sites that don't display pages nicely (bad programming, imo) ...including the few internal knowledgebases I access for work

Other than that, I much prefer Firefox. MS should start to take notice, cause they could get caught out very easily if they remain complacent.

nffc · 06-09-2004, 11:49

The speed is the best thing about FF. The security is often-hyped- but that's incidental because people will only target IE as that's the most-used, sure FF is probably hackable as well...

I saw on the front page of a magazine, can't remember which, saying "stop IE security issues" or something, and sniggered "ditch IE is the easiest way".

Can't see why anyone wants to use IE, FF rocks.

06-09-2004, 12:02

I've done the same as GDW1975 has, gone to FF but keeping a shortcut to IE in my Start menu, for things such as FilePlanets download manager that doesn't work on FF, Windows Update etc.

Chris W · 06-09-2004, 12:41

I use FF, but have the hack that gives you an "open in internet explorer" option when you right click

ntl customer · 06-09-2004, 13:22

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Originally Posted by nffc

The speed is the best thing about FF. The security is often-hyped- but that's incidental because people will only target IE as that's the most-used, sure FF is probably hackable as well...

I saw on the front page of a magazine, can't remember which, saying "stop IE security issues" or something, and sniggered "ditch IE is the easiest way".

Can't see why anyone wants to use IE, FF rocks.

I think the speed is one of the most over hyped things about Firefox. I have Firefox installed on my PC but I hate using it - for the simple reason that it takes so bloody long to start up - 45 seconds, compared to the ultra fast 6 seconds IE takes to start up.

Another thing I hate about Firefox is its rather 'violent' processor usage. Whenever it loads a page, it the processor usage shoots up to 100% and causes any playing music to skip. Although IE does the same thing, it doesn't cause music to skip.

Call me cynical, but I think this is a way for AOL to take over the browser market - after all, AOL did invest quite a bit in Mozilla.

Richard M · 06-09-2004, 14:05

Sounds like you have a slow PC then because Mozilla loads in <1 second on my PC even without preloading and I can do whatever I want with a tiny blip on the CPU usage.

06-09-2004, 14:40

FF uses about 50mb of memory on my system, which IE uses about 20mb. I've also started to use ThunderBird for my email, and I have to say it's better than Outlook

nffc · 06-09-2004, 15:26

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Originally Posted by ntl customer

I think the speed is one of the most over hyped things about Firefox. I have Firefox installed on my PC but I hate using it - for the simple reason that it takes so bloody long to start up - 45 seconds, compared to the ultra fast 6 seconds IE takes to start up.

Another thing I hate about Firefox is its rather 'violent' processor usage. Whenever it loads a page, it the processor usage shoots up to 100% and causes any playing music to skip. Although IE does the same thing, it doesn't cause music to skip.

Call me cynical, but I think this is a way for AOL to take over the browser market - after all, AOL did invest quite a bit in Mozilla.

Sounds like you're a bit confused.

The speed in FF is the speed to download and render web pages, not the speed to start up.

IE is part of the OS, FF is not. So when you load Windows, core IE technologies are also loaded meaning IE takes less time to load. FF being not part of the OS (although that in itself is an inherent advantage) means all its components have to be loaded the first time you load it up. First time you load it unsurprisingly it will be slower, but when you ARE using it and when you load it again (before logging off) it will be faster.

Although it sounds like you have a slow machine- on my AMD 2000+ with 512MB RAM stashed full with stuff I probably don't need, it runs fast enough- and 2000+ processors are 2 years old. Even when I'm playing music.

AOL- don't make me larf!

MB- yes I have that plugin, it's cool when FF won't really open a page. If that happens very often- and there's another that you can get that tells FF it's really IE6 or something.

My FF is so full of hacks, tweaks and plugins it's a wonder it doesn't grind to a total halt...