300K to 750K stupid question but will I see a difference?

[DrAwesome]

Originally Posted by pop80_uk

Sorry didnt mean to cause a fight, I dont know what a ping is.

A utility to determine whether a specific IP address is accessible. It works by sending a packet to the specified address & waiting for a reply. Ping is used primarily to troubleshoot Internet connections.

or..........

verb: hit with a pinging noise
noun: a river in western Thailand
noun: a sharp high-pitched resonant sound (as of a sonar echo or a bullet striking metal)

[jonifen]

I noticed an increase from 600k to 1mb when I upgraded all that time ago... but some people will not notice it the same.

I found a slight speed increase over using a SACM from a STB, and when we had to revert back to STB (as NTL b0rked up our bill with the modem being installed so we got it took out to get things as they were) it went back to normal (i.e. 5 extra ping to jolt servers).

Cant wait for the samsung box to be installed on 2/9 - a colleague in work says his internet is quicker through that than through his old pace box (he is now on 1mb - he's gonna fone ntl to find out why he hasnt got the 1.5mb yet although he had it on the sacm last week before reverting back to the stb as ntl b0rked his bill too!)

However, what is good for one is not good for another... I once said our ntl was perfect (as it was!) and the next day, we had 4 hours of downtime and an increase of 15ms in ping for weeks afterwards. We even had the stb replaced as it kept crashing and channels kept cutting out (pressing channel up and then down brought it back - annoying never the less).

One final thing... ping through the dos command is not the same as ingame ping (unfortunately!!)
I ping a q3 server (jolt ctfs 4 for example) and get 22 ping... I load q3 and play the game yet the scoreboard says between 35 - 45 so they're not entirely accurate - must be related to the size of data packets or something...

But, I would say the 750k would be a good improvement over the 300k - just try it anyway... you gotta keep it for 30 days and if its not worth the extra for following months, just revert back to the 300k (thats what I'd do anyway!)

[Rone]

Originally Posted by andrew_wallasey

Every post I have read by you so far has been absolutely rubbish. I suggest using your brain before you make any more posts.

Cut down on the spam and stay calm.

[Mauldor]

Actually - Just downgraded from 1.5mbit to 750 and odd though it may seem, web pages load a lot faster - wierd i know but true..

[Matth]

Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

64k upstream on the 300k option

Perhaps I shouldn't shout about this then

Upload Bandwidth Test Results

Upload Speed 126 Kb/s


On the 300k, pretty sure I had 128+/128 and 150+/128 as well. (ex-C&W, if it makes that much difference)

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by Matth

Perhaps I shouldn't shout about this then

Upload Bandwidth Test Results

Upload Speed 126 Kb/s


On the 300k, pretty sure I had 128+/128 and 150+/128 as well. (ex-C&W, if it makes that much difference)

Is that on a Set Top Box or a Modem, the STB has different speed restrictions in both directions to support the data requirements of the TV programming, I know that you used to be able to get a download of 256k on a 150k STB service, the upload may be higher so the box uploading PPV and other information did not affect the BB service.

And to answer the topic question, I think 300-750 will be a noticable increase in web performance, 750-1500 less so as many web sites will be capped to offer less bandwidth to the user than 1500, so will not be able to send the page back to you at 1500, also where they are database driven (like this one), the page has to be formed by the database before it can be served, this will take longer than the serving, you will spend the same amount of time waiting for the page to be generated on 300, 750 and 1500, slightly less time recieving it.

[etccarmageddon]

Originally Posted by SMHarman

Is that on a Set Top Box or a Modem, the STB has different speed restrictions in both directions to support the data requirements of the TV programming, I know that you used to be able to get a download of 256k on a 150k STB service, the upload may be higher so the box uploading PPV and other information did not affect the BB service.

as far as I know, the Set Top Box users only ever got a 'special' download speed increase/allowance because of interactive services - but they still had the crappy 64k upload speed if they're on the bottom tier.

perhaps a question for BBKING - perhaps the bottom tier on STB does get a bigger upload allowance.

[pop80_uk]

Thanks every one!
My next problem is how to get this upgrade! I called NTL today but the lady on the phone at NTL towers said she could not do it and it needed a ISP PNP tranfer of codes(i have no idea what this is!), and you can only get that from an engineer or a web upgrade. She said to look at the web site and try and do it from there, otherwise she could not help.
Any ideas?
She also said there is an upgrade fee of £20! is this correct!?

Thanks again

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by pop80_uk

Thanks every one!
My next problem is how to get this upgrade! I called NTL today but the lady on the phone at NTL towers said she could not do it and it needed a ISP PNP tranfer of codes(i have no idea what this is!), and you can only get that from an engineer or a web upgrade. She said to look at the web site and try and do it from there, otherwise she could not help.
Any ideas?
She also said there is an upgrade fee of £20! is this correct!?

Thanks again

uhhhhhhhhhh no there is no upgrade fee , i think there is some confusion creeping in here , ntl should be able to upgrade you over the phone no problem

[Graham M]

Confusion at NTL CS!?!?!? OMG!!!

[Stop It]

Originally Posted by pop80_uk

Thanks every one!
My next problem is how to get this upgrade! I called NTL today but the lady on the phone at NTL towers said she could not do it and it needed a ISP PNP tranfer of codes(i have no idea what this is!), and you can only get that from an engineer or a web upgrade. She said to look at the web site and try and do it from there, otherwise she could not help.
Any ideas?
She also said there is an upgrade fee of £20! is this correct!?

Thanks again

EH?!!! Ok you can do it online thyself
http://www.ntlworld.com/data-feeds/e...tierMigration/
Or ring up CS (Again) and ask to be put up to 750K, (Thats how I gone from 600k to 1Mb) there is no fee, at all, so you should have asked for the persons name, and reported her to her manager, for that is shoddy to say the least.

[sav112]

I was thinking about dropping my phone and TV package(standard) as the ntl phone is really only 2nd phone over BT which is the main house phone and my NTL TV is only upstairs and to tell the truth Cable TV has lost its shine, lots of channels with little worth watching and getting the BB upgraded to say 750KBS or even 1.5Mb

But after reading the posts on this and finding the browsing and gaming are just as good on my 300K package I think Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢ll just drop the phone and TV and stay with the 300K and that will cut my bill in half to only 17.99. I donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t download very much at all but use it more for browsing and gaming.



I was a bit suspect my friend has 1.5mb and his games run just as bad (Ping) as mine while online, Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢m not say its really bad but not as good as I thought it should be for his connection. He downloads a bit but even he is thinking of dropping back down a level to 750KBS