front row movies recordable? or not :(

sirsimon · 11-08-2004, 17:06

Anyone have any idea's if front row movies are recordable etc??

I tried last night with spy kids 3 but it did not work however a friend tried and he said it came out ok good quality taping so i'm lost i have it set up as below..

stb to switching box for several scarts (tv, video, dvd player)
and anabled to say send stb picture from switching box to video to tape but front row did not work :( i have the scart lead in the stb plugged into tv socket would putting it in video socket make any difference and would signal rgb or composite make difference?

any help welcome thanks
simon

paulyoung666 · 11-08-2004, 17:13

analogue or digital ???????? , i know you cant record sky ppv movies for certain , well you couldnt anyways

11-08-2004, 17:16

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

analogue or digital ???????? , i know you cant record sky ppv movies for certain , well you couldnt anyways

must be digital - we don't get Front Row on analogue, any more.

paulyoung666 · 11-08-2004, 17:19

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Originally Posted by homealone

must be digital - we don't get Front Row on analogue, any more.

shows how long i aint been with ntl dont it

Nutty · 11-08-2004, 17:27

You can record them. The problem is most of them have macrovision encoded in them, which messes with the VCR's tracking control. Its a copy protection system.

You can get around this by using some RGB convertors which strip macrovision, or using a really really old VCR with manual tracking.

Nor · 11-08-2004, 17:29

Think you can with those integrated video and tv's aswell.

Bob · 11-08-2004, 17:48

In fact most of the movies are not encripted with Macrovision protection anymore. Only certain movie studios must ask for this to be on and the rest can be recorded fine. I used to recieve this information from Front Row but this is no longer available. If I remember correctly Disney was once such studio who's films had this. As Spy Kids was made by Miramax (part of Disnsey) that could explain why you had inteference when you tried to record. But its strange as I got a recording no problem

sirsimon · 11-08-2004, 18:39

thanks for all your comments most helpful think best option is to buy it next week on dvd (hear it comes with 3d glasses lol)

cheers anyway and yes i was on about digital sorry

spiderplant · 11-08-2004, 20:36

Spy Kids 3 isn't Macrovision-protected, so that's not the problem. I'd suggest checking the wiring and that you've got the right input selected.

j4y3m · 15-08-2004, 07:24

I used to be able to record the films but ever since I've got my new STB it doesn't seem to work anymore. It could just be the films I've tried though.

spiderplant · 15-08-2004, 09:41

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Originally Posted by j4y3m

I used to be able to record the films but ever since I've got my new STB it doesn't seem to work anymore. It could just be the films I've tried though.

As stated above, Macrovision-protected films are few and far between. In what way doesn't it work? Can you record normal TV ok?

Nutty · 17-08-2004, 18:03

Odd, I thought nearly every film had macrovision. All films on dvd's do I'm sure. The last time I tried it was on From Dusk Till Dawn 3 (or some other vampire flick) and it was macrovision protected.

j4y3m · 18-08-2004, 11:27

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Originally Posted by spiderplant

As stated above, Macrovision-protected films are few and far between. In what way doesn't it work? Can you record normal TV ok?

Yeah normal TV is okay, The only movie I've tried to tape from Front Row so far has been The League of Extroadinary Gentlemen and that didn't work but I'll see next time I watch a movie on there.

binary · 19-08-2004, 17:41

I thought all PPV films were Macrovision protected until I read this.

To test this, I tried recording on VHS The Italian Job (the 2003 remake) from Front Row the other day, however it definitely had Macrovision protection which messed up the recording of the film as intended.

As I understand it Macrovision protection works better on some equipment to others, and possibly even the combination of TV & video can make a difference. Some older VCR's are definitely meant to be immune.

I also have been told that it's possible to buy SCART lead signal boosters (for connection from VCR to VCR), which can counter the Macrovision coding. I guess they could also be used on the cablebox to VCR connection.

**Maggy** · 19-08-2004, 18:19

I have always been under the impression that it was a waste of time to record from front row because of this protection.I thought was the same for all PPV.

Incog.