Mum had sex with son

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Russ D

Don't get lippy with me, 'sunshine'. I'm asking you to explain why in one instance you say anyone can get married whereas in the next you state that marriage by definition is for a man and a woman.

Jerrek appears to be suggesting that if a Gay man (or woman) wants to marry, they should suppress their sexual urges and marry somebody else of the opposite gender. Either that or just try and enjoy sex with a member of the opposite sex, in effect, becoming bisexual (assuming one can become bisexual rather than being born bisexual).

I personally think the suppression idea is bad, as in my experiance most people cannot suppress their sexual urges for any great length of time so will be tempted to go off and cheat on their partner. I personally think that if you are going to cheat on someone, you should not marry them.

Anyway, back to the subject at hand. As stated before, I personally believe the mother and son were both wrong in this case. And it does look especially odd as there is a history of abuse in the family.

Originally Posted by Incognitas

Yes but are they all committing incest?Let's stick to the topic please.

I was merely replying to a point you made about having children, so please don`t attempt to play the role of topic moderator when someone is responding to post you made.

Your point was what if the couple decide to have children as a result of incest. I am pointing out that many couples in a normal relationship actively decide not to have children, so I fail to see your point. Your original comment almost suggests that it is inevitable that if someone is in a relationship they are going to have children.

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by scastle

Jerrek appears to be suggesting that if a Gay man (or woman) wants to marry, they should suppress their sexual urges and marry somebody else of the opposite gender. Either that or just try and enjoy sex with a member of the opposite sex, in effect, becoming bisexual (assuming one can become bisexual rather than being born bisexual).

Because King Jerrek has decided that the definition of marriage under the law, for reasons I can only assume are due to morality, is "a union between a man and a women".

Therefore perhaps change the definition of sex under the law, as "the act of sexual intercourse between people not of the same immediate family" will solve the problem.

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by dr wadd

Are they now? Assuming that in this instance everything was done with consent, how exactly are you being protected by this prosecution?

I am being protected by not having to live in a society where people think it's alright to screw your own kid, or even produce deformed mongs of children.

Originally Posted by Jerrek

And because King Mick feels it is sick it should be illegal?

I'm not interested in the legal implications - I am more concerned about the effects of such activities on the rest of the immediate family. Appears to me that you do not have any family values, how sad.

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by dr wadd

I was merely replying to a point you made about having children, so please don`t attempt to play the role of topic moderator when someone is responding to post you made.

Your point was what if the couple decide to have children as a result of incest. I am pointing out that many couples in a normal relationship actively decide not to have children, so I fail to see your point. Your original comment almost suggests that it is inevitable that if someone is in a relationship they are going to have children.

Oh, right, so you think that these sickos who think incest is best spare a thought about contraception??

[Russ]

Originally Posted by orangebird

Oh, right, so you think that these sickos who think incest is best spare a thought about contraception??

The 'bird makes a good point....

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by orangebird

Oh, right, so you think that these sickos who think incest is best spare a thought about contraception??

Well said, OB

Originally Posted by orangebird

I am being protected by not having to live in a society where people think it's alright to screw your own kid, or even produce deformed mongs of children.

Yes, but with regard to the former, you haven`t said how you are protected. If someone believes that it is ok to have sex with a close family member, assuming they both consent, how are you being harmed? Unless you can demonstrate the harm it would cause you, any arguments about you being protected are by definition invalid.

With regard to the latter, if you are concerned about that perhaps you should be advocating eugenics.

Originally Posted by dr wadd

I was merely replying to a point you made about having children, so please don`t attempt to play the role of topic moderator when someone is responding to post you made.

Your point was what if the couple decide to have children as a result of incest. I am pointing out that many couples in a normal relationship actively decide not to have children, so I fail to see your point. Your original comment almost suggests that it is inevitable that if someone is in a relationship they are going to have children.

That's a very narrow point of view.What if the couple decide to have children?Because that's what loving couples do is it not?

Who's playing semantics now?

I never made it an absolute did I?Also I was merely asking for you to stick to my point not acting as a moderator.

Not everyone will stick to the rules.They never do.It is realised that incest will happen.Under those conditions the authorities can either say get on with it(thereby risking the wrath of certain voters-probably the majority) or totally ban it.If you say well yes it's alright under certain conditions you just confuse and send conflicting signals to the populace.

Our government still stays on the side of a total ban.I don't see them revoking it because they must have a pretty good indication that it is what the majority want.I really can't see any government having a referendum on this issue though so I may be wrong.

Originally Posted by Russ D

The 'bird makes a good point....

Really? I thought it was an emotive bit of tabloid-esque rhetoric, based on assumptions that she is not in a position to make. I didn`t spot a single good point in the reply.

Originally Posted by Incognitas

Our government still stays on the side of a total ban.I don't see them revoking it because they must have a pretty good indication that it is what the majority want.I really can't see any government having a referendum on this issue though so I may be wrong.

What the majority want, or what the majority have been programmed to want? There is no absolute right or wrong here, just people having knee-jerk reactions of the type that they have been programmed to have.

Originally Posted by dr wadd

What the majority want, or what the majority have been programmed to want? There is no absolute right or wrong here, just people having knee-jerk reactions of the type that they have been programmed to have.

Thank you for the second put down in an hour.

Of course I'm unintelligent and can't possibly know my own mind.I'm inclined to knee jerk reactions based on being 'brainwashed' by the government and can't possibly read between the lines or make up my own mind.

I believe that incest is wrong on purely scientific grounds.It has been made a moral issue in the past by differing religions because they realised that the offspring of close relatives did display deformities but couldn't explain it beyond the idea that it offended a god or two.Now we have better scientific knowledge perhaps it may be time to discuss the issue further.

However having seen the errrr...rabid discussion here I think it's not one that will be discussed rationally anytime soon.

Incog signing off to do the house work.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by dr wadd

Really? I thought it was an emotive bit of tabloid-esque rhetoric, based on assumptions that she is not in a position to make. I didn`t spot a single good point in the reply.

Well there you go, opinions are like a***holes, everyone's got one and they all stink apart from mine

OK every one take a chill pill break please