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Old 04-08-2004, 14:55   #46
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Re: Mum had sex with son

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they are both party to commiting the offence, however if you look at it the woman took advantage of the man's state at the time of the alleged act happening, so thusly she was the one that enticed the man in to the illegal act.
Hmm, do panic attacks often have the same effect as viagra?
Perhaps he was "scared stiff"

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the law is the law, this is illegal.

not to mention the immoral aspects of it.
Don't try and mix morality with law, it gets you into sticky situations.
Yes it's illegal, but locking them away wouldn't do much, and who would look after all her other kids?
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Old 04-08-2004, 14:57   #47
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Re: Mum had sex with son

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I see what youââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢re saying but, irrespective of the situation, thereââ‚ÆšÂ¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s no way that an adult can consent to sex with their mother / son, and not know that itâ₠¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s wrong †“ I donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t think itâ₠¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s a case of her †˜enticingâà ƒƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã¢â€ žÂ¢ him. As you say, they are both party to the offence and have committed an illegal act.
read the link, he was having a panic attack, she was comforting him, 'one thing led to another' and they kissed.

as for what i think, i agree with everyone, both partys were involved so they should both be punished, but whats the suitable punishment for this ?
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Re: Mum had sex with son

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read the link, he was having a panic attack, she was comforting him, 'one thing led to another' and they kissed.

as for what i think, i agree with everyone, both partys were involved so they should both be punished, but whats the suitable punishment for this ?
Neutering.
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Old 04-08-2004, 14:59   #49
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Re: Mum had sex with son

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Neutering.
no, i meant a suitable realistic punishment.

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Hmm, do panic attacks often have the same effect as viagra?
Perhaps he was "scared stiff"
no


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Don't try and mix morality with law, it gets you into sticky situations.
Yes it's illegal, but locking them away wouldn't do much
true, but im sure you can agree with me on this one.

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and who would look after all her other kids?
the relatives, most proberbly social services would need to be called in, should they be now actually ?
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Old 04-08-2004, 15:04   #50
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Re: Mum had sex with son

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no, i meant a suitable realistic punishment.
It is suitable - who wants to risk sick, socially retarded people like them spawning inbred deformed children?

Realistic? No, it's not (unfortunately).... Jail for both of them, and children in the family taken into care until the mother cannot be considered a danger to them.
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Re: Mum had sex with son

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It is suitable - who wants to risk sick, socially retarded people like them spawning inbred deformed children?
thats branching off in to other things, some parents do not deserve to have children the lack of basic control over them is ever apparent in alot of areas in this country.

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Realistic? No, it's not (unfortunately).... Jail for both of them, and children in the family taken into care until the mother cannot be considered a danger to them.
how could those 'feelings' be changed ?
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Re: Mum had sex with son

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read the link, he was having a panic attack, she was comforting him, 'one thing led to another' and they kissed.
Now I can't speak for anybody else here, but if my mum was comforting me and then kissed me, I wouldn't be in any fit state to have 'one thing lead to another'.

I know what you're saying Kronas, but I just can't see the link between 'oh, my son's having a panic attack' to 'oh look, we're having sex'.


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as for what i think, i agree with everyone, both partys were involved so they should both be punished, but whats the suitable punishment for this ?
Personally, I don't think that jail is a particularly suitable punishment (for either of them) - there's obviously some sort of problem which should be addressed, maybe through supervision or councilling. Of course, if it happens again, I may be forced to agree with OB
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Re: Mum had sex with son

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thats branching off in to other things, some parents do not deserve to have children the lack of basic control over them is ever apparent in alot of areas in this country.
And your point is?? Letting your children be unruly cannot be compared to screwing them..... The same can be said about the son- he must know that it's wrong...



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how could those 'feelings' be changed ?
I personally don't think they could...If it were up to me I'd make sure that she never saw them unless it was supervised. Was just trying to be a little merciful...
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Re: Mum had sex with son

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I know what you're saying Kronas, but I just can't see the link between 'oh, my son's having a panic attack' to 'oh look, we're having sex'.


im well aware of that, but as my prevous post said how can you prevent the 'feelings' of someone who has these 'desired' to be 'attracted'


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Personally, I don't think that jail is a particularly suitable punishment (for either of them) - there's obviously some sort of problem which should be addressed, maybe through supervision or councilling. Of course, if it happens again, I may be forced to agree with OB
so some sort of correctiona facility would be a choice, but wht would happen to the children, allowences to be made for visiting etc...

i think its quite an awkward situation to be in.

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And your point is?? Letting your children be unruly cannot be compared to screwing them.....

as i said its branching off in to other things, letting them run riot can make them more susceptible to commiting any offence...



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I personally don't think they could...If it were up to me I'd make sure that she never saw them unless it was supervised. Was just trying to be a little merciful...
i think that would be more appropriate, aside from the councilling
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Why is this even illegal? Two consenting adults, having sex...
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Why is this even illegal? Two consenting adults, having sex...
Are you telling us that you condone incest? Where's your banjo?
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Why is this even illegal? Two consenting adults, having sex...
Jerrek/Russ/Towny, what does the bible say about sleeping with your family?
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Are you telling us that you condone incest? Where's your banjo?
Of course not. Just because smoking is legal doesn't mean I condone or engage in such activities.

But, isn't this the government legislating morality? If you support this law, what grounds do you have to not support laws against, say, anal sex or gay sex?
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Of course not. Just because smoking is legal doesn't mean I condone or engage in such activities.

But, isn't this the government legislating morality? If you support this law, what grounds do you have to not support laws against, say, anal sex or gay sex?
I'm quite happy to have someone legislating that. If it keeps laws that stop people fornicating with minors/animals/corpses etc .. but I guess you feel that impinges on your personal freedoms too?
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I'm quite happy to have someone legislating that. If it keeps laws that stop people fornicating with minors/animals/corpses etc .. but I guess you feel that impinges on your personal freedoms too?
We're not talking about minors, animals, or corpses. We're talking two consenting adults.
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