29-07-2004, 00:42
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Re: Game causes Murder
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Originally Posted by Jerrek
Now if you banned guns, there would be no more violence...
Oh wait.
It is horrible, but the game no more caused the murder than I caused it to rain today. Someone made a conscious decision to commit murder. Blame that person, not the game.
And, that person should take the shortest road to the noose.
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Oh my god, call for a straightjacket. I must be going mad because I agree with Jerrek.
I'm no expert, but IMHO the kid is a psychopath and as a person of seriously deviant character, deserves to be put down.
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29-07-2004, 08:54
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Re: Game causes Murder
To blame the game is just Bullpoop!
Millions of people play computer games, some must be even more violent than that one &they dont all go out & kill someone in such a way.
There must have been many other factors about why he did it, such as his upbringing etc.
Although, this 1 incident is likely to get more done about banning games that the majority of normal people can enjoy.
Anyone want a game of "Rainbow 1.5 custard pie throwing"?
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29-07-2004, 10:15
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Re: Game causes Murder
Another case of "Boy plays game, game depicts killing, boy murders therefore the game must be reponsible". This, IMO, is bull.
But, having said that, the game was an 18, so, legally at least, the murderer should not have had it. The game was an 18 for a reason.
When I worked for Blockbuster, all too often, a kid would come in, pick up the goriest horror film he (not being sexist, I can't actuall recall a girl doing this) could and bring it to the counter. I would, as I was legally required to, refuse to rent/sell it and he would leave the shop.
Two minutes later one of the boy's parents would come in and (after sometimes having a go at me for refusing to serve their little boy) rent/buy the same film.
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29-07-2004, 10:18
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Re: Game causes Murder
People People, Since when do we care what the daily mails thinks?
they are always doing this, parhaps one day they might actually blame the bloody parents and lack of education/treatment for this kid
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29-07-2004, 10:26
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Re: Game causes Murder
'The game made me do it'... it's right up there with 'The devil made me do it' - it comes down to people not wanting to be accountable for their actions, from the Kids : 'ooohhh scary voices from the tv told me to kill/steal/beat, when what I actually need is some parental voice to tell me No, I shouldn't do x' - to the parents 'ooohh scary voices from the tv made them do it, our parenting couldn't possibly be at fault - we're good parents, just look at this, we let them have what ever they want, see? - '18' films, '18' games, that must make us good parents ... we don't need this discipline stuff.. just slip little Johnny a tenner and tell him to go and amuse himself...'.....
Good thing Marilyn Manson hadn't done the music for the game, he'd well and truly be up poo creek....
I spent hours playing 'advanced lawnmower' simulator when I was a kid - I never once felt the urge to go and really mow the lawn (much to my mums dismay).
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People People, Since when do we care what the daily mails thinks?
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Of course we care what the Daily Mail thinks - it's the moral guardian of the country, if not the world, don't you know - if the Daily Mail says it's wrong, it must be, and who are we to argue with the all knowing paper?????
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29-07-2004, 10:34
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Re: Game causes Murder
Ok so that game may have led to this young boy being killed. There are plenty of other games such as Grand Theft Auto. Now there was another case a while back blaming that game. I ask myself why hasnt that game been banned?
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29-07-2004, 10:42
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Re: Game causes Murder
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Originally Posted by Wayne A
Ok so that game may have led to this young boy being killed. There are plenty of other games such as Grand Theft Auto. Now there was another case a while back blaming that game. I ask myself why hasnt that game been banned?
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Because there are thankfully people who still have common sense in this country
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29-07-2004, 10:43
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Re: Game causes Murder
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Originally Posted by Damien
Because there are thankfully people who still have common sense in this country
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you are so right.
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29-07-2004, 10:43
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Re: Game causes Murder
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Originally Posted by Damien
Because there are thankfully people who still have common sense in this country
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Where?
That's just a nasty rumour and you know it...
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29-07-2004, 11:08
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Re: Game causes Murder
Oh gods, here we go again
'Mrs Pakeerah, 36, called for violent video games to be banned.
She said: "I can't believe that this sort of material is allowed in a society where anarchy is not that far removed. It should not be available and it should not be available to young people." \
You're right, Mrs Pakeerah, it shouldn't. That's *why* it's got an 18 certificate!!
Don't blame the game, blame the parents who let him have it.
And whilst we're at it, did the boy have any *other* problems such as difficulties at home or at school, for instance?
This is just a classic knee-jerk response of "something must be to blame and this game is the easiest target". We've seen it with Dungeons and Dragons, we've seen it with Grand Theft Auto and First Person Shooters, we've seen it with Heavy Metal music and now this is the nearest convenient excuse not to *think* about whether there are other issues that children face
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29-07-2004, 11:24
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Re: Game causes Murder
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Originally Posted by Graham
Don't blame the game, blame the parents who let him have it.
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While I fear that the conclusion I`m drawing myself is a bit Daily Tabloid, I am forced to question what sort of background this guy was coming from if he was 14 and the mother was 36, you only have to do the maths.
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29-07-2004, 11:41
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Re: Game causes Murder
I am fed up with people blaming games for their kids commiting crimes. Most of the time the kids are not actually old enough to be playing these games in the first place. Also they are blaming the games for the fact that their kids are complete psychos. Games are a form of esapism, not to be confused with real life.
I have played the game in question, and yes it is really violent. But if you are old enough to play it you should realise that it is just a game and in no way real. You must have some real problems if playing a game wants to make you kill some one. I play games all the time but they do not make me feel like running people over, murdering people, skateboarding like a fool or racing a car alogh at crazy speeds.
these people must already have an underlying mental problem.
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29-07-2004, 11:47
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Re: Game causes Murder
They blame the games, but do other people who play the same game go around killing people? No, they don't, so blaming the game is just so you can't blame it on your own child.
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29-07-2004, 15:20
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Re: Game causes Murder
here we go:
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Electrical store Dixons has stopped selling the computer game Manhunt.
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A Virgin Megastores spokesperson said they advise customers on content.
"While we take a level of responsibility, ultimately, censorship decisions are up to the consumer."
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WH Smith confirmed they stocked the game and were considering their position.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/3936597.stm
talk about kneejerk reactions
its up to the consumer NOT the retailer, a retailer is there to provide products not to dictate what we can and cannot buy
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29-07-2004, 15:32
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Re: Game causes Murder
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Originally Posted by kronas
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Well I suppose they have to be seen as doing something!!Even IF the game is not really responsible.
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