Every household to get "terror advice"

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by downquark1

Speaking of reasons for mass panic. Has anyone noticed that google isn't working

yes it is

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by paulyoung666

yes it is

When I do a search I get this:

[Richard M]

Keep an eye on the BBC news site for more on this.

[paulyoung666]

Originally Posted by downquark1

When I do a search I get this:

nope , deffo working here , proxy issue maybe

[Richard M]

STOP PRESS!
Apparently it's down to a new variant of the MyDoom virus.
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=0...&tid=217&tid=1

Only certain people are affected though, I'm not luckily.

Looks like I'm ok so far.

Saying that I prolly just dropped myself right in it.

[punky]

Originally Posted by Debsy42

My plan of action:

1) Grab nearest dishy fella

Or turtle?

Originally Posted by Debsy

3) Put Kerrang on TV and make sure I go out with a bang and smile !!!!

Noooo! Remeber, Kerrang = Bad, Scuzz = Good

Originally Posted by Earl Of Bronze

While it's all well and good saying be prepaired, if the worst does happen. It wont be in the quiet suburbs, it will happen in a city center prolly on the weekend. Thats how I'd plan it.

Unless you want to buy you're own Noddy Suit and Respirator, and practice getting into it in less than 30 seconds. Then well, you are buggered mate. Yes be vigillant, yes have an idea what to do in an emergency. But dont expect the British Government to have anything sorted out. Cause you'll be dead, and then it wont matter.

Actually it is kind of connected. If a serious terrorist attack it could easily spread mass panic to the suburbs. It didn't happen with 9/11 because no WMD we're involved, but imagine if it had.

You are right there isn't much you can do as it happens. Some info in what to do to contain it after the fact would be nice. The trouble is the experts themselves don't know. I mean, they say you should run into the wind away from the site. Some say you should keep still or you could spread it. If someone's on the floor do you try and give first aid, or leave them? What are you supposed to do? I haven't got a clue. The 5 or so minutes before the emergency services come is crucial.

I've actually raised this point before. After 9/11 America distributed their guidance, but all we got from MI-5 was: "Err... I'll get back to you on that". We've rode our luck long enough.

[andygrif]

Without casting dispersions about Americans in general - as I know lots of very sensible and inteligent Septics.....

The US had never really suffered any sort of terrorist threat (aside from a few demented individuals like Timothy McVie) until 9/11. A combination of madness fed to them by the government generated genuine fear, which the media heightened beyond belief.

I remember being in New York just before Christmas last year (the weekend Sadam was captured, but that's irrelivant) and seeing a 'shock health warning' on the news - the news station had gone undercover in some of the fast food eateries round the Island - and they found....wait for it....someone handling lettuce without latex gloves on! They went on to interview a 'scientist' who said detailed every type of disease this could spread.

This is a nation under fear of their lives from every corner - terrorists, burgers, the mailman, aircraft, etc etc etc.

We're simply not in the same mould as the Americans. Maybe it's the British stiff upper lip, maybe it's becuase we have lived with the real threat of terrorism, maybe it's becuase we're naive - but the Brits just don't get that worked up by this sort of scaremongering propaganda - although it's not through want of trying by the government.

How many 'specific threats of a terrorist act' have we had since 9/11? The only thing specific about them is the complete absence of any specific information about any such act. The show of strength round Heathrow last year, ring of steel around the Houses of Parliament?

Of course you could say that becuase these preventative measures happened then they averted the threat - and I know I'm starting to sound like a dillusional conspiracy theorist here - but in the absence of any real information (even after the specific threat had passed would be fine) I can't personally draw any other conclusion apart from the government trying to scare the public.

Real world terrorists, usually dont go anywhere near high profile targets like parliment buildings. Yes I know an attack was carried out on the Indian parliment, but thats India, and a similar op in GB would be extremely difficult to achieve. Its more likely that a 'Soft Target' would be chosen, as was chosen in Spain. Half a dozen blokes, carrying rucks full of explosives and large ball-barings in a very open public place is a more realistic threat.What are the security services supposed to do to stop that sort of attack. It cant be done, unless someone makes a mistake then civilians will die. Its how I would plan an attack, but then again, I'm trained to think like that.

[Tezcatlipoca]

Originally Posted by s1lv3r

Let me guess ..the main advice will be "Duck and Cover"

LOL

And don't forget "Protect & Survive"

[Pierre]

Seriously though we were prone to attack by the IRA for years. We suffered from several attacks in England. I dont recall a big leaflet drop like this.

AFAIK none of the new terrorist threat have managed to attack us yet.

Whats the panic?

[basa]

Originally Posted by andygrif

<snip>...... I can't personally draw any other conclusion apart from the government trying to scare the public.

Well naturally....we are in the run up to a general election and Mr Bliar and his cronies are trying to appear proactive toward terrorism plus justify their current legislations with regard to terrorism.

Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze

Real world terrorists, usually dont go anywhere near high profile targets like parliment buildings. Yes I know an attack was carried out on the Indian parliment, but thats India, and a similar op in GB would be extremely difficult to achieve. Its more likely that a 'Soft Target' would be chosen, as was chosen in Spain. Half a dozen blokes, carrying rucks full of explosives and large ball-barings in a very open public place is a more realistic threat.What are the security services supposed to do to stop that sort of attack. It cant be done, unless someone makes a mistake then civilians will die. Its how I would plan an attack, but then again, I'm trained to think like that.

Precisely ! Remember Warrington and Manchester bombs ??

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze

Real world terrorists, usually dont go anywhere near high profile targets like parliment buildings. Yes I know an attack was carried out on the Indian parliment, but thats India, and a similar op in GB would be extremely difficult to achieve. Its more likely that a 'Soft Target' would be chosen, as was chosen in Spain. Half a dozen blokes, carrying rucks full of explosives and large ball-barings in a very open public place is a more realistic threat.What are the security services supposed to do to stop that sort of attack. It cant be done, unless someone makes a mistake then civilians will die. Its how I would plan an attack, but then again, I'm trained to think like that.

Actually, this is true. Hence the terrorist releasing Sarin into the air on the Tokyo underground.

But one thing we have to remember. Terrorists are often in it for publicity. This is why the IRA often warn the police (or a local authority) when they have placed a bomb in an area.

At the moment, the various actions of Dubya and Blair are giving them plenty of publicity..

[punky]

I've been meaning to post a big post on this with evidence. I've only got a min, so i'll briefly say what I wanted and maybe elaborate on it later.

Basically, there are more terror attacks than people realise. I can't find the source now, but, it was St. Petersberg Times or something. It is about acts of terrorism falling in 2002. It said there was some 700 attacks in 2002.

And about the media scaring America witless: Its a bit weird here. You'd think Americans are really sensitive, given they normally ban things first and seem like health freaks, but they sell so many drugs through TV and radio, that, wait for it, is NOT FDA approved. Hmmm. I even heard the other day that they have banned MDF for asbestos reasons.

There's something else I was going to say but can't remember now. Maybe later.

[Stuart]

I found a good spoof of the government's official advice. I don't want to take this thread too far off topic, so have created a new thread. http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ewpost&t=15467