Why castration is NOT the answer
14-07-2004, 19:02
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Re: Why castration is NOT the answer
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...........Right. Again all this is due to the way media portray stuff rules of life are.
1. Single Men are up to something
2. Married men are up to something and are hiding their tracks
3. Women are always victims
4. Men are evil
5. Women are innocent
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14-07-2004, 19:11
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Re: Why castration is NOT the answer
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Originally Posted by Damien
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...........Right. Again all this is due to the way media portray stuff rules of life are.
1. Single Men are up to something
2. Married men are up to something and are hiding their tracks
3. Women are always victims
4. Men are evil
5. Women are innocent
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Bit of an over simplification there Damien.
My personal view on this subject is, kids will be kids. Seeing as the article was rather thin on actual details of the 'act', it's rather hard to make a ballanced judgement. One thing I can say for sure, if the girl in question was my daughter, she'd get a bloody good smack, and grounded/ supervised during play for 6 + months. And regular lectures as to approperate behaviour.
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14-07-2004, 20:00
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Re: Why castration is NOT the answer
Yeah, I wasnt really being serious......just pointing out the way the media potrays stuff
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14-07-2004, 20:07
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Re: Why castration is NOT the answer
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Originally Posted by Damien
Yeah, I wasnt really being serious......just pointing out the way the media potrays stuff
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In that case, my bad. :o
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14-07-2004, 21:12
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Re: Why castration is NOT the answer
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Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze
One thing I can say for sure, if the girl in question was my daughter, she'd get a bloody good smack, and grounded/ supervised during play for 6 + months. And regular lectures as to approperate behaviour.
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most parents dont have the time to track what their kids do never mind punish them......i wonder what her parents will do ?
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14-07-2004, 21:18
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Re: Why castration is NOT the answer
Look agreed sometimes stereotypes are allowed to get out of hand in the media.However, perhaps if WE,yes WE as in all of us here,male and female and all those in between,started treating each other as PEOPLE and not as genders we might be able to discuss this sensibly.However some of you have already had the typical kneejerk reaction of ALL MALES and ALL FEMALES are typically this and typically that.
The fact of the matter that's all a load of cr@p and you know it really deep down.There is good and bad in people and in genders.
I'm a PERSON first,a female second.Or are you fellas a MALE first and a person second?
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14-07-2004, 21:22
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the problem is the media pushes for creating the 'bad man' good girl image, just like the movies, people tend to believe what they see and are told, people in society treat women as objects anyway....so what better way to 'control' people's thoughts that its only a problem in one gender...thats how its portrayed, people believe it.
thats why when its a woman doing it there is not much of a reaction....
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14-07-2004, 21:37
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the problem is the media pushes for creating the 'bad man' good girl image, just like the movies, people tend to believe what they see and are told, people in society treat women as objects anyway....so what better way to rid of the idea that its only a problem in one gender...thats how its portrayed, people believe it.
thats why when its a woman doing it there is not much of a reaction....
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Yes there is-one of shock.
Also when it comes to a woman being in court for a criminall offence in front of a male judge she is much more likely to be sent to prison for a first offence than a male because of the idea that women must be punished much more severly for not adhering to the women should be the good liitle wife syndrome.
It really isn't fair for a whole group to be labelled as bad because some of the group do bad things.
This applies to both genders equally.It needs a mental change of gears to stop playing the genders war and start being part of the entire human race and treating each other as PEOPLE.
Look lads yes this girl behaved as badly as some boys.She also behaved badly as a person.
Time to stop turning things into a gender issue all the time.
The same goes for women always labelling all men as pigs and rapists,It is unfair and some of us women also hate that attitude from our own gender.
Note that I avoid the men are this and women do that in the humour forum.I think this is where it has to stop.Yes all those rules for men and rules for women can be funny but some folk really believe them.
So I'll treat you as a person if you will please do the same.Time to bury the gender hatchet that both sexes have been beating each other about the head with for years.
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14-07-2004, 21:41
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oops i set her off on a rant
i agree on most parts of your post, i still think the law is unpredictable, as is the case with fighting for custody for children being a prime example.
but i agree with the rest...
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14-07-2004, 21:51
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Re: Why castration is NOT the answer
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oops i set her off on a rant
i agree on most parts of your post, i still think the law is unpredictable, as is the case with fighting for custody for children being a prime example.
but i agree with the rest...
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aargh - Kronas, you missed the point - Incog would have much rather you replied to 'Incog' - not "her" ?????
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14-07-2004, 21:54
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aargh - Kronas, you missed the point - Incog would have much rather you replied to 'Incog' - not "her" ?????
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i was replying to incog, not her
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14-07-2004, 21:54
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Re: Why castration is NOT the answer
TO be fair we are commenting on this fact incog. I mean weither you like it or not there is the attiude of men secound women first. Look at the actions in terms of childcare. All genders should be equal but in all respects. Women are still victim of some sexism but now also are males, especially when it comes to law
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14-07-2004, 22:04
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Re: Why castration is NOT the answer
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TO be fair we are commenting on this fact incog. I mean weither you like it or not there is the attiude of men secound women first. Look at the actions in terms of childcare. All genders should be equal but in all respects. Women are still victim of some sexism but now also are males, especially when it comes to law
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Agreed! But nothing is going to change UNLESS we address this gender issue sensibly and demand as ONE group that gender shouldn't lead to inequal treatment or attitudes for either gender.That the Equal Opportunities law works in both directions and that we as a group of PEOPLE should eschew the gender war.
That stupid When Harry Met Sally film that insisted that we can't be friends.  But we can provided we accept certain limitations and rules about how we treat each other as people not a different species.
The sex war still doesn't appear to be over.
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14-07-2004, 22:17
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I was brought up to treat other's as I would want to be treated.
At the same time I was brought up to be 'Gentlemanly' to women. Hold doors open, pay for food etc. I hope thats doesnt make me a sexist, but a better and more rounded human being (though reciently I fail to measure up).
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14-07-2004, 22:23
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Re: Why castration is NOT the answer
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I was brought up to treat other's as I would want to be treated.
At the same time I was brought up to be 'Gentlemanly' to women. Hold doors open, pay for food etc. I hope thats doesnt make me a sexist, but a better and more rounded human being (though reciently I fail to measure up).
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Well as long as you hold a door for both men and women it makes you well brought up and polite.I hold doors for all people but especially for the infirm and disabled.
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