help

thanks for your help lads.i think i will try to get some professional advice on this matter.
regards
andy 1

Originally Posted by andy 1

thanks for your help lads.i think i will try to get some professional advice on this matter.
regards
andy 1

Shame! I really wanted to see it.

Anyway do let me know what you find out.

Incog.

OH and LADS???

I'm a laddess.

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by andy 1

i've got a feeling it is not a photograph.its thicker than normal photo paper of that time.
anybody suggest a good picture restorer in or around lincoln.

Older paper (especially photo paper) is thicker than new. The techniques to roll thin flat paper have improved over time. Does it have any indication that it it photo paper on the back of it?

[iadom]

Originally Posted by andy 1

can't scan it in lads its to large for an attachment

If you have PSPro or similar you can scan in, then change the format to a jpeg and resize to under the forum limits.

[aliferste]

If strong light is going to affect it then surely scanning the photo willy nilly is going to make it deterioate faster?

Originally Posted by Damien

DONT ASK US

Scan it then before you touch it take it to someone who knows. He are far too dumb to be offering advice on something as priceless as that

What on earth is the uproar about this comment? I was simply pointing out that he should taking to a expert picture restorer instead of getting advice of the internet and trying to do it himself

[aliferste]

Originally Posted by Damien

What on earth is the uproar about this comment? I was simply pointing out that he should taking to a expert picture restorer instead of getting advice of the internet and trying to do it himself

Hes only looking for a little advice is all! I think it was the way you wrote it

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by aliferste

If strong light is going to affect it then surely scanning the photo willy nilly is going to make it deterioate faster?

Yes if you were continuously scanning it, but it is a one off exposure to light. Realistically the light from a scanner is likely to be less than the exposure from leaving it in the sun for a week, (or possibly less). I'll work this out if you really want to know.

When a gallery gets a watercolour imaged or photographed, the professional will use flash but this is one day of flash exposure.

Compare to allowing visitors to use flash photography, on a popular image, this could mean 100 flash exposures a day 300 odd days a year. The sort of light level that would cause fading.

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by Damien

What on earth is the uproar about this comment? I was simply pointing out that he should taking to a expert picture restorer instead of getting advice of the internet and trying to do it himself

For a start you wrote the opening line in capitals - shouting.

Secondly you answered on behalf of a group of whom you do not know the full skill set, this group is not so much the bunch of techies and geeks you would expect to find on a forum, but includes people from all walks of life. We have teachers, opticians, radio DJs, leatherworkers, etc, I would not be suprised if an art restorer was lurking somewhere, they watch TV too (well I imagine they do - History channel?), and that is really the common bond of this thread, NTL DTV and other cable services.

What you probably should have said was don't ask me, but I would seek expert advice IMHO, you may not find that here, but lets see what others have to say.

Others including myself feel we did have something constructive to say (including ultimately getting experts involved). I think it was written in a way that irritated, indicating to the OP that they should stop asking such questions and go elsewhere, but if you look at threads on here all kind of diverse questions are asked. Lifes experience from many of the members contribute to a constructive and useful answer.

In reality would you try to repair an old priceless photo yourself if you had no experience? You can give all the advice in the world but you are not there to do anything surely the handling of the task should be left to the experts.

[SMHarman]

Well yes I would.

The problem is that if it is a photo, then it cannot be repaired, photos fade in light over time, it's a result of the paper printing process light is used to create the image, then stop (basically an acid to stop the chemical reaction) is used to halt that reaction, but although called stop it really only slows it to a crawl. The only thing you can do to prevent this is keep them in the dark (as it is a light based reaction), then you cannot see them!

If this is a photo, then this is how you preserve the original, to keep on view you need to reprint it. The reprint is a new chemical reaction and will last another 100 years or so.

If you have printed pictures on an inkjet printer using cheap refill ink and cheap paper, you will often find, in a frame that these images will be degrading in 6 months or so, the blacks start going grey, the reds pink. HP and Kodak have invested £ÃÆ ’‚£Ãà¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚£ in getting their papers and inks as permenant as possible, while keeping them water based.

If the OP has a high quality scanner (2400x4800), then realistically the scanned image created using that at full resolution will be as good as any the pro's create (probably better as it will not be a production line job). If that image is then submitted to an on line printing process then you will get a new permanant copy to display.

Others on this site, or just digital graphic artists could probably do wonders to a high quality digital image adjusting the colour profile, contrast etc to reflect the impact of sun fading and restore. The image might need to be FTP'd as if it is this high res it will not email hapily, but the end result would probably be better than the pros.

here is the picture,anybody any ideas how to clean it up,even improve the jpeg.
thanks
andy 1

sorry, I still dont understand what you mean 'clear up' or improve the jpeg

[TheBlueRaja]

Looks a bit better, cant really extract more detail otherwise it becomes a bit grainy.



P.s. How do you make it a thumbnail?

[zoombini]

A nice picture, now you have it scanned in taking it to a proffessional photo shop would be your best bet.

No doubt someone here will be taking your attachment & having a go at improving it.

I'm only capable of, adding a moustache & beer froth on the top lip.