Help with Frames

[Florence]

I wasn't planning on using frames and perhaps will never again. Its just the examiner for college wil not pass the site without frames somewhere

[Matth]

If you want to replace the level above the frame, TARGET="_parent", to replace the lot TARGET="_top"

Another problem you can find with multiframe layouts, is that wiythout resorting to (potentially disabled) javascript, you can only refrest one frame as a link - unless you split the frameset into two levels.

Eg. Level 1, is a top and rest frameset named navbar and navbody.
Level 2, another frameset page (more than one of them) can load a left and right frame in the navbody area - you can still reference the frames individually, and you can also replace the entire navbody by loading a different frameset - it's a powerful trick, but you really need a clear picture of how you want to organize the frames.

[Florence]

Thank you all for the helpful advice I now have the buttons reopening in the original window.

This just leave me the problem of the footer.htm not working

I am now well on the way to completing this after a long struggle and giving up finding the answers myself.

Again thank you to all who have helped me complete this task.

Edited to say the whole page is now working and about to be added into the main site.

A really big thank you to you all that replied reps have been given for this help.

Do I build another website using only notepad or go into some other form of editor. It was fun using notepad just the frames that spoilt it.

Thanks all again..

[altis]

Before you hand it in, you could slip in the following link somewhere for your examiner to follow
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=i-h...e+Search&meta=

Why not trade up to TextPad - it automatically highlights HTML tags for you
http://www.textpad.com/
...and it's what I use too

[Florence]

Originally Posted by altis

Before you hand it in, you could slip in the following link somewhere for your examiner to follow
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=i-h...e+Search&meta=

Why not trade up to TextPad - it automatically highlights HTML tags for you
http://www.textpad.com/
...and it's what I use too

Great link it matches my name on MSN where I have "Kits has had help but still hates frames I tell you they are EVIL"

Will send the link to her by email with the link to my website for her to examine it and get the source codes.

I was sent all sorts of HTML editors but I felt more comfortable using notepad until I hit the frames nightmare...

You can all pass judgemant on the website soon when the last little bits go up..
and its moved to the hosting company for marking.

Again CF members have saved the day and rescued my sanity..

[Matth]

http://www.pspad.com/ - I actually use 1stPage 2000 from EVRSOFT though - STILL waiting for the next version to be anything other than vapourware.
PSPAD has had considerable praise as a general text editor with HTML and other code enhancements.

Actually though, a lot of stuff, I edit it in as if it was notepad - really ought to make more use of the abilty to have code snippets to paste in - I like to know the structure, and I truly hate bloated, unreadable, illogical generated code.

[Florence]

I have noticed how much uneeded code there is in others websites they are building for the course and feel I made the right decision to go with notepad.

[MetaWraith]

Learning to edit the html by hand will always stand you in good stead. Various editing tools out there are just that TOOLS. You will learn far more working natively.

Frames do take a wee bit to get used too. These are the stages I use.
1) Develop the individual pages in whatever manner you prefer
2) Write the framset page and check initial pages load
3) Edit links within pages to point to the correct frames

My own preference for text editors are
1) Editpad Classic/Lite for general work
2) Editpad Pro for html, javascript, css etc

Glad you got things sorted.

[Florence]

Well the page is working and the code I have is:-

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<title>New Page 2</title>
<base target="blank">
</head>
<frameset rows="170,50%,*">
<frame name="top" scrolling="no" noresize target="middle" src="1.htm">
<frameset cols="50%,*">
<frame name="middle" target="left" src="video.htm" scrolling="yes">
<frame name="middle" target="right" src="links.htm">
</frameset>
<frame name="bottomframe" target="middle" src="footer.htm">
</frameset>
<noframes>
<body>
<p>This page uses frames, but your browser doesn't support them.</p>
</body>
</noframes>
</html>

and it displays like this limo2carriage

I am just checking the content to be sure its all alright and typing up terms& conditions It has now moved to my main hosting site from NTLs webspace that I have been using as my test site.